# Modern Responsive

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [January 18, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888 "2022-01-18T17:07:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/221 "2023-10-09T00:26:32Z")

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Ohh yeah kasms great.

Also @Pun1sh3R has it right you can modify some side effects however you can also use shims to get the same effect and bearing shields make great shims. Good luck.

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**Author:** ![Veedo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/veedo/32/242414_2.png) [@Veedo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Veedo)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/222 "2023-10-09T04:33:00Z")

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I’m hoping to get my first Kasm with this drop! The Watermelon looks great.

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**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/223 "2023-10-09T13:34:53Z")

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I was anti 3D printing until I got a Kasm as part of a trade. It is an amazing little yoyo and a blast to throw.

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**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/224 "2023-12-01T20:47:07Z")

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My favorite modern responsives right now all started life as unresponsive. Panoramas and Dioramas make wonderful responsive yoyos with a little tweaking. And just like the unresponsive guys its hard to choose which is best.

 ![20231201_145503](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/f/5/ef5cdb7442c9b3380603831d5c60449f2a56281b.jpeg)  
 ![20231201_145438](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/c/b/2cbdb51e2aef59f0c8da85a482d3de6996ccc1f8.jpeg)  
 ![20231201_145413](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/1/a/01a9e688e627da1e4c6cf92b2e78e0a4d17a7364.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/225 "2023-12-01T20:49:15Z")

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> [@TommyBwell](#):
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> Panoramas and Dioramas make wonderful responsive yoyos

This is a true statement. 😁:+1:

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**Author:** ![Veedo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/veedo/32/242414_2.png) [@Veedo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Veedo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/226 "2023-12-01T20:52:02Z")

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Then I’m doing mine tonight!

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/227 "2023-12-01T21:24:37Z")

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Nice, but they aren’t _really_ modern responsives.

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**Author:** ![Veedo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/veedo/32/242414_2.png) [@Veedo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Veedo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/228 "2023-12-01T23:46:26Z")

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any tips? This is the first time I’ve worked with the Side Effects. Am I able to install a shorter axle?

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I did some research. The axle is definitely locked in with Loctite or something. It appears I’ll have to file it down at some point.

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**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/229 "2023-12-01T23:55:44Z")

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So what I have found easiest is to use a cutting wheel on a Dremel to shorten the axle. The main reason for this is that they used Loctite on the Side Effect that has the axle. I put plier tooth marks on it trying to hold it tight enough to get that axle out. So after that I just Dremel about 4 threads off. Then the non axle axle Side Effect has to have the post shortened. I’ve done this with a file and with a stone wheel on a Dremel (my preference) For that I take some off test it and take more off repeat until the halves don’t free spin when you screw it together. If this doesn’t make sense I have some examples in another thread.

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**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/230 "2023-12-01T23:59:40Z")

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> [@How I mod my Deep State (and other yo’s)](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-i-mod-my-deep-state-and-other-yo-s/375524):
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> I am currently waiting for a Deeper State from the good ol’ BST and this fine community. I plan to do the same mod to it as I do for my Deep State. I know that everyone has their own preferences, and setups can vary greatly depending on style and preference of the player. So in no way am I saying this is the best or only way for a setup to be. Now what I’m after here is responsive play. I’ve tried lubing bearings for improved response and it does work. It actually amazes me how sensitive a Yoyo …

Around post 50 there are pics and explanation.

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/231 "2023-12-02T00:18:11Z")

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I see Steve already commented with what was done in some experiments earlier this year on modding various throws . Alternatively you can use shims but either way let us know how it goes.

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**Author:** ![Veedo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/veedo/32/242414_2.png) [@Veedo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Veedo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/232 "2023-12-02T00:55:30Z")

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Thanks everyone!

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**Author:** ![safidoesyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@safidoesyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safidoesyoyo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/233 "2023-12-02T01:10:06Z")

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I’ve done something similar with a SOMEThING Double or Nothing which was designed to be more of a training yoyo. Just put a 6mm axle and a greased slim bearing.

 ![20231029_191005](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/f/4/6f43133fd675020f03cc2d287782e85d53484d6e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/234 "2023-12-02T01:37:21Z")

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Thats a cool piece. I’m a fan of Something yoyos but I didn’t think they had anything for me.

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**Author:** ![Overtinkering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/overtinkering/32/663225_2.png) [@Overtinkering](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Overtinkering)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/235 "2023-12-02T02:05:11Z")

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> [@safidoesyoyo](#):
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> SOMEThING Double or Nothing

Oh oh i like that

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**Author:** ![safidoesyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@safidoesyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safidoesyoyo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/236 "2023-12-02T02:07:59Z")

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I think they’re sold out everywhere though so good luck finding one if you’re interested

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**Author:** ![safidoesyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@safidoesyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safidoesyoyo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/237 "2023-12-02T02:10:00Z")

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What makes you say they aren’t modern responsives? As far as I see it modern responsive is a style of yoyo and whatever yoyo that you are using to play the style can be considered modern responsive. I don’t mean to push, just curious about your thought process.

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**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/238 "2023-12-02T02:22:04Z")

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Panorama and Diorama are on my list to pick up someday. I would half spec and shim them with a shorter axel.

Taking the axel out isnt that difficult. I think I posted somewhere about it in the Mod Thread linked above. I know I posted modding the side effects to not need shims.

Here is one of my favorite Modded Responsive yoyos. Half spec bearing and shorter axel is all it took.

 ![20230821_181845](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/3/6/c36aefcf0c95fbbb7a27ea3655770c4036289892.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/239 "2023-12-02T03:04:32Z")

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Ohh nice I have a double or nothing but I left it unresponsive I like how hard it is to do stuff on. I do have a rotor I converted to responsive that’s fun to loop with

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**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/240 "2023-12-02T04:12:48Z")

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Hey Cody,. For the uninitiated among us what is that?

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