# Modern responsive: deep or deeper state

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**Created:** [March 10, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive-deep-or-deeper-state/420694 "2025-03-10T21:02:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive-deep-or-deeper-state/420694/10 "2025-05-29T14:41:04Z")

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I have a Pay it Forward out with both the Deep and Deeper States in it. They have been modified to run a Narrow SPEC C bearing. They run dry and rely solely on the pads for response. Check out the thread and if it interests you… give them a try. In stock form both States will play differently. These manage very well to be very responsive while still being forgiving enough for a LOT of string play.

> [@Pay it Forward Modded Responsives](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pay-it-forward-modded-responsives/390466/237):
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> This is excellent .

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