# Modding a Fireball for More Response?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [April 13, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633 "2023-04-13T19:42:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/1 "2023-04-13T19:42:13Z")
Dear Modlords, please advise me on how to get a yomega fireball set up for looping play. I cannot get it responsive enough. I’d like so share what I’ve already tried and see if y’all have any other suggestions to try before I get drastic.
First thing I did was switch to my fattest string—not responsive enough
Then I blobbed a bit of Vaseline between the trans axle and axle—not responsive enough
Then I tried playing with the string wraps around the transaxle
1-6x—not responsive enough, no real change between adding these extra wraps, probably because of the way the transaxle is designed but I don’t know.
7x—sounds funny and not responsive enough
8x—doesn’t sleep at all
I searched the graveyard and lots of the mods I’m seeing are kind of sketch and I know this thing is fragile because this is the second one I got and the first one came with the plastic pre cracked.
With 2x wraps the response is close, but not quite there.
I have lots of sand paper 80-800grit. Would roughing up the inside or transaxle itself help?
Can I just add a pad over the starburst? Has anyone tried this?
There is a post I found that goes through how to drill out the response area so that you could add flowable Silicone or pads, which I will follow if y’all don’t have any other suggestions for things to try…that just seems intense and I thought it would be better to ask here first. Thanks!
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### Author:  [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/2 "2023-04-13T19:49:28Z")
You can buy spacers that are pre modded, or you can sand down the plastic spacers that come with it.
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### Author:  [@p44company](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/p44company)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/3 "2023-04-13T19:53:33Z")
If you want a setup for looping play, you can replace the nylon bearing into size k ball bearing + plastic spacers and a new axle to be fully mod. Once you replace the inner parts it needs to overcranked the yoyo in order to narrow down the gap, using this method is a risk so be careful.
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### Author:  [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/4 "2023-04-13T20:06:25Z")
Okay I’m going to sand down the width of this plastic transaxle piece some and then very careful over crank it a tiny bit by tiny bit later tonight. Thanks I’ll let y’all know how it goes. Probably should have just got a loop720…
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### Author:  [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/5 "2023-04-13T20:19:36Z")
honestly i don’t like the fireball for looping. same problems really. i can make it work for a little while with gobs of silicone lube. a thick cotton string might work slightly better than polly too. but a raider ex is probably better since it comes with many spacers to adjust gap and a ball bearing you can tune with silicone grease, etc… my takada 720’s with the red bearing spacers have all the response i need, no tuning required. I actually prefer looping with fixies so far…
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### Author:  [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/6 "2023-04-13T22:14:01Z")
TK Turbo Disc stickers work good
> [@Fixed Axle Friday Throws](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/2260):
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> Been playing this one since yesterday and have had it for a while, I have always thought of a thread to share it in. I actually physically bought this one at a Toy R’ US years ago when getting back into yo-yo and remember thinking, Yomega those use to be pretty good. So technically not a fixed axle, and Bandai use to call these PBs (Plastic Bearing) but in todays world of modern Yo-Yo, maybe this Trans-Axle in now more considered to be Axle-Fluid. I’m not playing it stock with a recommended doub…
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### Author:  [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/7 "2023-04-13T23:46:15Z")
Okay okay went in confident. I did research, got good advice, and knew my goal—shrink the width of this gap, just a hair. I got the little plastic transaxle sanded down perfect like definitely shorter and looking good I didn’t want that to trip me up. Went to crank it, it worked but wasn’t responsive enough, undid the crank like the tuts say, did it again, almost almost perfect and the first two went well so I was like aight let’s go. Did the untwist to release the pressure and the axle broke off in there lol oh well I got greedy live and learn!
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### Author:  [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/8 "2023-04-14T01:08:51Z")
Probably too late now, but one of these (not two) would work just fine.
For myself, fireballs work just fine with cotton string and well lubed, either oil or grease.
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### Author:  [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/9 "2023-04-14T03:35:00Z")
If your careful with the caps you can remove them and repair the yoyo. It’s tedious but once the caps are off fear of cranking it is long gone lol
You would just need another axel which are pretty cheap
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### Author:  [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/10 "2023-04-14T14:12:44Z")
think maybe if you can find a slightly shorter axle it might help… or maybe grind half a mm off the threaded ends of a stock one…
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### Author:  [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/11 "2023-04-14T14:28:55Z")
Yeah I’m taking a break from fooling with these. I’m trying to learn loops and wanted it for that but I do have a wood fixed axle that has been working, it just barely sleeps which seems fine because I suck and need a lot of response for now but it also still punishes bad loops. I’ll probably just end up ordering some other loopers eventually, this just taught me that I’d rather be tossing yo-yos than trying to get them set up right and I did learn a lot about the theory behind looping yo-yos so all in all I’m counting it as a win!
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### Author:  [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/12 "2023-04-14T14:43:36Z")
Fair enough. I find the tinkering and setup half the fun and the maintenance and cleaning therapeutic but that’s me.
I’m tempted to get a few fireball just to play with modding them a tad.
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### Author:  [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/13 "2023-04-14T14:46:20Z")
It was a fun Yoyo and the one that still spins I’ll keep for 0a I just struggled to loop with them like it would go way way way high but other people definitely rock them
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### Author:  [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modding-a-fireball-for-more-response/373633/14 "2023-04-14T15:18:28Z")
the looping up thing you could try to use longer string, but still shrinking gap is better when you can.