# Möbius **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [May 25, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053 "2013-05-25T13:11:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![theriv422](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@theriv422](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theriv422)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/1 "2013-05-25T13:11:13Z")
I am just starting möbius and I saw online the tips for an organic shape and a large bearing. I wanted to see if any of you guys had any suggestions (I want one that is really cheap and plastic). ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/2 "2013-05-25T13:20:03Z")
A counter attack from yoyo factory I think will work. ---
**Author:** ![Eastfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eastfield/32/1158_2.png) [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/3 "2013-05-25T17:28:30Z")
How do you guys pronounce Möbius? ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/4 "2013-05-25T17:35:54Z")
> [@Eastfield](#): > > How do you guys pronounce Möbius? I’d say - moe be us, but what do I know? That’s how all of my math teachers said it. ---
**Author:** ![Schnayke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Schnayke](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Schnayke)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/5 "2013-05-25T17:49:37Z")
Sometime ago I was reading about it and watching some videos produced for the set up. The idea I guess about large bearings is not just that but near maxed out gaps so the slip knot can go through the gap. I don’t have a suggestion for you but keep that in mind. we are probably talking 4.5+ mm gaps. ---
**Author:** ![theriv422](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@theriv422](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theriv422)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/6 "2013-05-27T23:49:37Z")
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**Author:** ![Big\_cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_cat/32/877_2.png) [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/7 "2013-05-27T23:55:59Z")
As a big fan of Mobius, I really recommend the OD 54. Zammy, the master of Mobius was the one who suggested the 54 tome back when i fist got into Mobius, and let me tell you, it works great! It has nearly everything you could want in a Mobius throw, you should check it out! ---
**Author:** ![theriv422](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@theriv422](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theriv422)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/8 "2013-05-28T19:54:15Z")
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**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mobius/54053/9 "2013-05-28T21:05:59Z")
If your looking cheap I would definitely go for the yyf counter attack. It’s a great starter for möbius that’s what I’m learning on.