# Midsize Bimetals: Where Art Thou?

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**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [March 27, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342 "2020-03-27T19:51:55Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/1 "2020-03-27T19:51:55Z")

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## Shape Criteria:

I’m scoping out a bimetal that:

1. falls into the midsize range (see table below)
2. profile in the organic spectrum (few/ no hard lines in the catch-zone)

Approximately the same dimensions as the TiVayder:

| Diameter | ~53-54 mm |
| Width | ~42-44 mm |
| Weight | ~62-65 grams |

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## Play-Feel:

Something _powerful_ like the OD Top Deck.

Stability is a non-issue.

Easily maneuverable/ not a rock. _Dare I say, ‘floaty’?_

BUT also not too light.

Comfy in the hand.

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## Final Thoughts:

I thought the [Yoshicuda X](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yoshicuda-x-yoyo-by-duncan) looked very promising to me, but it seemed to garner [skepticism from the community](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-yoshicuda-x-and-orbital-gtx/307555/15) as being inferior to the slightly larger [Barricuda X](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/barracuda-x-yoyo-by-duncan?variant=31093666152522); which is a little larger diameter than I’m looking for. And the Yoshicuda X is not currently available either.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/2 "2020-03-27T19:56:21Z")

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You want a **Batsquatch**. Checks all the boxes.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/3 "2020-03-27T20:00:40Z")

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Oh wow, you’re right lol:

Batsquatch

| Diameter | 54.5 mm |
| Width | 43.93 mm |
| Weight | 63.61 grams |

My question is, have you played one? And if so, does it hit the play-feel criteria listed above?

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/4 "2020-03-27T20:13:47Z")

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Yes, I own one and have played it. It definitely hits your play-feel criteria, and beautifully I might add.

However, I must disclose that I’m still kinda fuzzy on the whole “floaty” vs. “flowy” thing, and so I make no promises that the Batsquatch is as floaty (or flowy) as you would like. Maybe someone else with more experience and a better grasp of these concepts can chime in.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/5 "2020-03-27T20:20:49Z")

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Smashing Yoyos Spectacle.

It is the only bimetal I own and the only one I have enjoyed playing (which is why I still own it). It falls into the criteria you are after:

Diameter: 54mm  
Width: 44mm  
Weight: 63.3g

I like it because it doesn’t feel like a brick on the end of a string and there is definitely a floaty feeling to it.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/6 "2020-03-27T20:23:04Z")

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> [@zslane](#):
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> “floaty” vs. “flowy”

Not entirely sure these two are juxtaposed :thinking:

Let’s see, without digressing _too_ much… Top Deck isn’t what I would consider “floaty”, the Ti Vayder on the other hand, _is_ what I would consider “floaty”.

Floaty is definitely more about technique, but certain weight distributions do lend themselves well to the discipline.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/7 "2020-03-27T20:24:23Z")

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In those terms, I’d say the Batsquatch plays/feels _much_ more like a Ti-Vayder than a Top Deck.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/8 "2020-03-27T20:26:25Z")

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_Nice_ 🕶

Thanks man!

> [@beeebon](#):
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> It is the only bimetal I own and the only one I have enjoyed playing (which is why I still own it). It falls into the criteria you are after

Thanks for the input, mate!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/9 "2020-03-27T20:39:36Z")

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> [@zslane](#):
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> You want a **Batsquatch**. Checks all the boxes.

Was just going to post this!

I think you’d love the Batsquatch @smileypants707. It’s such a cool yo! Feels great in the hand, but it’s also really powerful and stable as heck. It’s comfy like an organic but performs like a high performance beast.  
I love my Batsquatch.

> [@smileypants707](#):
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> Something _powerful_ like the OD Top Deck.
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> Stability is a non-issue.
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> Easily maneuverable/ not a rock. _Dare I say, ‘floaty’?_
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> BUT also not too light.
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> Comfy in the hand.

> [@smileypants707](#):
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> does it hit the play-feel criteria listed above?

I’ve never played a Top Deck…but I have played with some powerful throws…and this one has plenty of punch/power to it!  
Definitely not a rock…but I definitely wouldn’t call it floaty. Then again, I don’t think I’m skilled/experienced enough to express my opinions on floatyness with confidence.  
And it’s super comfy in the hand!

Seems like just the yo you’re looking for!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/10 "2020-03-27T20:59:36Z")

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The Typo that’s coming from OP.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/2/b/92bff9dbeee66819d04966b46e68a0cdad2ec755.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/a/9/fa90c90ac4990c1969ea102f76155e8e40c9815f.jpeg) !

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/11 "2020-03-27T21:24:19Z")

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I came here to post “Smashing Spectacle” but beebon beat me to it.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/12 "2020-03-27T21:38:12Z")

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Oh my…

This looks promising! I especially like the profile. Nothing against the Batsquatch, I just have quite a few yoyos that share that same basic profile. This one looks nice.

_But the incoming hype and [assumed] limited quantity_. \*sigh #firstworldproblems

I’ll keep it on my radar, thanks for the heads up Durfee!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/13 "2020-03-27T21:40:14Z")

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> [@twitch77](#):
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> I think you’d love the Batsquatch @smileypants707

2nd.

> [@smileypants707](#):
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> Something _powerful_ like the OD Top Deck.

Shuppet Donk!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/14 "2020-03-27T21:46:04Z")

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> [@beherenow](#):
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> Shuppet Donk!

I had to [look this up](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shuppet_Donk_(TCG)).

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/15 "2020-03-27T22:01:06Z")

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[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLLTrwVPdHA)

Such a fun trick although I could never get last slack done very well or at all.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/16 "2020-03-27T23:37:27Z")

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Death Adder is pretty dang close. Little bit bigger diameter, but it doesn’t feel too big at all. It’s the yoyo I’m throwing probably 90% of the time.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/17 "2020-03-27T23:46:32Z")

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Not the vibe I was shooting for, but thanks for the heads up :wink:

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/18 "2020-03-28T00:33:08Z")

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I’m going to purchase it myself so I can let you know how I like it. It’s not releasing for a little bit. Generally the OP stuff is limited but doesn’t instantly sell out. Just be aware that their monos go for 120 so a bimetal will definitely be more than that.

I’m personally trying to venture out of my preferred specs a little bit so I’m curious how much I’ll like it. Gives me Turning Point vibes.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/19 "2020-03-28T01:09:07Z")

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I absolutely love the spectacle. Duncan’s exit8 is another great one. It fits your play feel, and is just a hair under 53mm. Its my favorite of duncan’s recent bimetals. I prefer the yoshicuda over the barracuda x.

Grab a spectacle if you can find one, but the exit 8 is good also and readily available.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/midsize-bimetals-where-art-thou/317342/20 "2020-03-28T07:48:51Z")

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> [@d34dj3d](#):
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> I prefer the yoshicuda over the barracuda x.

Yoshicuda is very appealing to me. Care to give me a simple review? Does it play/ feel similar to anything else?

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