# Metal Versions of Plastics and Vice Versa **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 17, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509 "2014-09-17T20:01:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Totalartist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/totalartist/32/1054_2.png) [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/1 "2014-09-17T20:01:56Z")
I’m curious who can help me come up with a list of plastic yo-yos that have a metal version, or vice versa. I’m going to start, and see if you guys can think of more. 1. Freehand Zero, later made into Freehand AL. 2. Severe, later made into Delrin Severe. 3. Protostar, later made into Rockstar. 4. Dark Magic, made into Legacy, then Trinity 5. Berserker, made into Alpha Crash 6. Maxbet, made into Maxbet Delrin 7. Leviathan, made into Leviathan Delrin 8. Agonist, made into Antagonist 9. Frequency Wave, made into F(x) (let me know of that’s the right order) 10. Hitman and Metal Hitman Update 9/24/14 I’m going to add a question to this. What yo-yo would you like to see a metal or plastic version of it? ---
**Author:** ![Zort\_Commander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/0ea827/32.png) [@Zort\_Commander](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zort_Commander)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/2 "2014-09-17T20:04:17Z")
Protostar= Rockstar ---
**Author:** ![Totalartist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/totalartist/32/1054_2.png) [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/3 "2014-09-17T20:14:54Z")
> [@Zort\_Commander](#): > > Protostar= Rockstar That’s a good one. I need a Rockstar too. :-\ I updated the list. ---
**Author:** ![hobbyman101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@hobbyman101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbyman101)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/4 "2014-09-17T20:15:07Z")
Legacy/Dark Magic. Not really a metal version of plastic but sort of. ---
**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/5 "2014-09-17T20:17:33Z")
Phenom/Izm Agonist/Antagonist Chaser/Next Level ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/6 "2014-09-17T20:17:49Z")
> [@hobbyman101](#): > > Legacy/Dark Magic. Not really a metal version of plastic but sort of. Ever heard of the trinity? ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/7 "2014-09-17T20:20:20Z")
With the Dark Magic/Trinity/Legacy, it’s a plastic-metal made into a plastic and a metal. ---
**Author:** ![LeftyLink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftylink/32/1321_2.png) [@LeftyLink](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyLink)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/8 "2014-09-17T20:21:31Z")
Berserker = Alpha Crash? Chief = Yeti? CODE 2 = Rally? ---
**Author:** ![Eli\_Flops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@Eli\_Flops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eli_Flops)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/9 "2014-09-17T20:40:19Z")
> [@LeftyLink](#): > > Berserker = Alpha Crash? > > Chief = Yeti? > > CODE 2 = Rally? I was thinking about mentioning the chief and yeti since the profiles are so similar. However the yeti is larger, heavier, and does not have the double rims of the chief. It all depends on whether you’re looking for plastic copies of metals (or vice versa) or very similar plastic/metal yoyos ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/10 "2014-09-17T21:03:44Z")
The first well known pairs are probably Hitman/Lyn and SP/SPM These pairs may just have similar genral profiles and play nothing like each other. Anglam/Angle/Addiction/theV(upside down A?) Phaser/Superfly Rem./CrazyD Dazzler/Laser/Diffusion Draupnir/Triad ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/11 "2014-09-17T21:05:44Z")
> [@TotalArtist](#): > > I’m curious who can help me come up with a list of plastic yo-yos that have a metal version, or vice versa. I’m going to start, and see if you guys can think of more. > > 1. Freehand Zero, later made into Freehand AL. > 2. Severe, later made into Delrin Severe. > 3. Protostar, later made into Rockstar. Metal zero and freehand mg. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/12 "2014-09-17T21:10:00Z")
How about different metals? VNYYC Skywalker & Ti Walker ---
**Author:** ![stickman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/stickman/32/72733_2.png) [@stickman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stickman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/13 "2014-09-17T21:12:40Z")
Here’s a perfect example of plastic and metal versioning. These are the Turning Point MaxBet, both Metal & Delrin & Leviathan Metal & Delrin. It gave you a great feel for what difference the materials make to the same shape. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/14 "2014-09-17T21:27:30Z")
Given the density difference between the materials, don’t expect them to play the same. The HitMan/Lyn are prime examples, even though one was metal/plastic and the other all plastic. The limited edition all metal HitMan played different than the HM & Lyn. ---
**Author:** ![RyN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecae2f/32.png) [@RyN](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RyN)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/15 "2014-09-17T21:57:00Z")
RecRev F(x) and Freq. Wave is one. There are a few recrev models in metal and delrin. ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/16 "2014-09-17T22:37:53Z")
> [@naoki](#): > > Phenom/Izm > Agonist/Antagonist > Chaser/Next Level Inspire and Next Level ---
**Author:** ![Totalartist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/totalartist/32/1054_2.png) [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/17 "2014-09-17T22:45:57Z")
I’m mainly looking for metals that were made to be metal versions of a plastic. Or, plastics that were supposed to literally be a plastic version of a metal. There are some close ones, and you can continue posting those too. But, I’m mainly curious about those intended to be a different version of the same throw (made of different material). Feel free to critique the list going in the main post. For example, I remember the Alpha Crash was advertised to be based on the Berserker, so I consider that one legit. Also, Legacy is described as designed from the Dark Magic, and advertised that way. I believe these are close enough to make the list, among others. Whether throws should be on the list can be up for debate. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/18 "2014-09-17T22:49:44Z")
Agonist and Antagonist. ---
**Author:** ![Totalartist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/totalartist/32/1054_2.png) [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/19 "2014-09-17T22:52:54Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > Agonist and Antagonist. I just Googled it, I’ll add that. ---
**Author:** ![Zort\_Commander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/0ea827/32.png) [@Zort\_Commander](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zort_Commander)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/metal-versions-of-plastics-and-vice-versa/69509/20 "2014-09-17T23:01:24Z")
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