# Medium skilled player yoyo **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [June 20, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345 "2013-06-20T16:23:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Poupou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Poupou](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Poupou)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/1 "2013-06-20T16:23:46Z")
Hi, I am looking for a yoyo that is good for medium skilled player but will last to the pro level. I have a budget of 30$. Does anybody have recommendation? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/2 "2013-06-20T16:30:55Z")
Alpha crash(19.99$), magic n12(depends on site but lowest is 16.00$), yyj classic(10$ without upgrades and atleast 20$ with bearing and response), yyf proto or North Star(30$). ---
**Author:** ![Poupou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Poupou](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Poupou)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/3 "2013-06-20T16:33:53Z")
Thank you very much! ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/4 "2013-06-20T17:02:08Z")
> [@augmentedloyalty](#): > > Alpha crash(19.99$), magic n12(depends on site but lowest is 16.00$), yyj classic(10$ without upgrades and atleast 20$ with bearing and response), yyf proto or North Star(30$). ^ Absolutely said it all. Just wanted to add that the “Northstar” is now called the “Shaqlerstar”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jdrabik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jdrabik/32/1110_2.png) [@Jdrabik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jdrabik)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/5 "2013-06-20T17:09:54Z")
The Yoyojam Surge is excellent, and only $16. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/6 "2013-06-20T20:15:14Z")
Depends… Does medium skilled mean you can bind yet? If so, a protostar is excellent but its $35, great choice if you can go a bit above your budget. If not, an alpha crash is a good choice for $20. If you want a metal, get a magic yoyo. If you can’t bind yet, you should get a Legacy II, $24, it comes with a slim bearing for responsive play and a speed bearing for unresponsive play when you’re ready. ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/7 "2013-06-20T20:44:10Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > Depends… Does medium skilled mean you can bind yet? If so, a protostar is excellent but its $35, great choice if you can go a bit above your budget. If not, an alpha crash is a good choice for $20. If you want a metal, get a magic yoyo. If you can’t bind yet, you should get a Legacy II, $24, it comes with a slim bearing for responsive play and a speed bearing for unresponsive play when you’re ready. fixed ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/8 "2013-06-21T01:53:00Z")
> [@augmentedloyalty](#): > > > [@andy569](#): > > > > Depends… Does medium skilled mean you can bind yet? If so, a protostar is excellent but its $35, great choice if you can go a bit above your budget. If not, an alpha crash is a good choice for $20. If you want a metal, get a magic yoyo. If you can’t bind yet, you should get a Legacy II, $24, it comes with a slim bearing for responsive play and a speed bearing for unresponsive play when you’re ready. > > fixed It looks exactly the same as my original ??? edit: OHHH, wait i got it, my bad 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mctron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mctron/32/1188_2.png) [@Mctron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mctron)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/9 "2013-06-21T01:56:50Z")
Look at the yoyojam trigger $27 plays with the best of my throws ---
**Author:** ![yoyo143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo143/32/1384_2.png) [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/10 "2013-06-21T02:01:08Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > > [@augmentedloyalty](#): > > > > > [@andy569](#): > > > > > > Depends… Does medium skilled mean you can bind yet? If so, a protostar is excellent but its $35, great choice if you can go a bit above your budget. If not, an alpha crash is a good choice for $20. If you want a metal, get a magic yoyo. If you can’t bind yet, you should get a Legacy II, $24, it comes with a slim bearing for responsive play and a speed bearing for unresponsive play when you’re ready. > > > > fixed > > It looks exactly the same as my original ??? > > edit: OHHH, wait i got it, my bad 😃 What did he fix??? I read it like 3 times… ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/11 "2013-06-21T02:20:25Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > > [@andy569](#): > > > > > [@augmentedloyalty](#): > > > > > > > [@andy569](#): > > > > > > > > Depends… Does medium skilled mean you can bind yet? If so, a protostar is excellent but its $35, great choice if you can go a bit above your budget. If not, an alpha crash is a good choice for $20. If you want a metal, get a magic yoyo. If you can’t bind yet, you should get a Legacy II, $24, it comes with a slim bearing for responsive play and a speed bearing for unresponsive play when you’re ready. > > > > > > fixed > > > > It looks exactly the same as my original ??? > > > > edit: OHHH, wait i got it, my bad 😃 > > What did he fix??? I read it like 3 times… Originally i put “it comes with a slim bearing for unresponsive play and a speed bearing for unresponsive play when you’re ready” 😃 but i changed it haha ---
**Author:** ![Poupou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Poupou](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Poupou)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/12 "2013-06-21T21:17:15Z")
> [@Gambit](#): > > > [@augmentedloyalty](#): > > > > Alpha crash(19.99$), magic n12(depends on site but lowest is 16.00$), yyj classic(10$ without upgrades and atleast 20$ with bearing and response), yyf proto or North Star(30$). > > ^ Absolutely said it all. Just wanted to add that the “Northstar” is now called the “Shaqlerstar”. 🙂 Does the Shaqlerstar is a responsive yoyo? And if yes can we change the bearing to turn it unresponsive? ---
**Author:** ![Mctron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mctron/32/1188_2.png) [@Mctron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mctron)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/13 "2013-06-22T01:33:13Z")
it is just unresponsive just like the trigger is just as good if not a little better but it all depends on preference the trigger play on the floaty side compared to the shaqlerstar but it still has great spin times. ---
**Author:** ![Poupou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Poupou](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Poupou)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/14 "2013-06-22T02:55:25Z")
Does the surge is a responsive yoyo? Because I looked on YouTube, yoyo expert blog page and other things like that and I didn’t find the answer on my own, if no does all the ball bearing yoyos are unresponsive? Sorry to bother you guys with all those small questions. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/15 "2013-06-22T03:06:27Z")
Not all ball bearing yoyo are unresponsive (though most of the are). Yoyojam uses narrow bearings in some of its lower-end models. It’s just a slim bearing which makes the yoyo responsive. For the bearing width, look for 0.250". That’s the unresponsive size. 0.125" is responsive. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/16 "2013-06-22T04:15:02Z")
> [@LinksLegionaire](#): > > Not all ball bearing yoyo are unresponsive (though most of the are). Yoyojam uses ‘Speed Bearings’ in some of its lower-end models. It’s just a slim bearing which makes the yoyo responsive. > > For the bearing width, look for 0.250". That’s the unresponsive size. 0.125" is responsive. Speed bearings are unresponsive 😛 a responsive yyj bearing is called a slim bearing haha ---
**Author:** ![Xore237](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xore237](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xore237)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/17 "2013-06-22T05:59:00Z")
YYJ Trigger YYJ Surge YYJ Classic YYF Shaqler/Proto/North Stars Adegle PSG Adegle Asteroid C3yoyodesign Alphacrash All these yoyos are around or under $30. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/18 "2013-06-22T06:49:37Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > > [@LinksLegionaire](#): > > > > Not all ball bearing yoyo are unresponsive (though most of the are). Yoyojam uses ‘Speed Bearings’ in some of its lower-end models. It’s just a slim bearing which makes the yoyo responsive. > > > > For the bearing width, look for 0.250". That’s the unresponsive size. 0.125" is responsive. > > Speed bearings are unresponsive 😛 a responsive yyj bearing is called a slim bearing haha What was I thinking. Shows how much I know my YYJ ;D ---
**Author:** ![Poupou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Poupou](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Poupou)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/19 "2013-06-22T12:49:12Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > > [@LinksLegionaire](#): > > > > Not all ball bearing yoyo are unresponsive (though most of the are). Yoyojam uses ‘Speed Bearings’ in some of its lower-end models. It’s just a slim bearing which makes the yoyo responsive. > > > > For the bearing width, look for 0.250". That’s the unresponsive size. 0.125" is responsive. > > Speed bearings are unresponsive 😛 a responsive yyj bearing is called a slim bearing haha So it means that the surge is responsive? ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345/20 "2013-06-22T16:36:45Z")
> [@Poupou](#): > > > [@andy569](#): > > > > > [@LinksLegionaire](#): > > > > > > Not all ball bearing yoyo are unresponsive (though most of the are). Yoyojam uses ‘Speed Bearings’ in some of its lower-end models. It’s just a slim bearing which makes the yoyo responsive. > > > > > > For the bearing width, look for 0.250". That’s the unresponsive size. 0.125" is responsive. > > > > Speed bearings are unresponsive 😛 a responsive yyj bearing is called a slim bearing haha > > So it means that the surge is responsive? Nope, it’s unresponsive. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/medium-skilled-player-yoyo/55345.md?page=2)