# Manufacturer? I don't think so.
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [May 21, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397 "2014-05-21T16:49:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/1 "2014-05-21T16:49:53Z")
If you don’t make your own product then please don’t call yourself a manufacturer.
At best you are a designer.
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### Author:  [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/2 "2014-05-21T17:12:26Z")
At best you are a guy who has money and knows how to use a CAD program.
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### Author:  [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/3 "2014-05-21T17:39:48Z")
I wouldn’t think of it that way. With that logic majority of all companies in the world aren’t manufacturers since many don’t physically make their products, especially companies that outsource. In my opinion I believe any person who physically designs, goes through all the work to have a Yoyo machined and successfully releases a run is a manufacturer. How many people in the Yoyo world do you think could afford a CNC?
Just to use you’re logic:
You don’t make the powder, the gun, or the oven. So you don’t manufacture custom powdercoats? You’re just a guy with hands?
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### Author:  [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/4 "2014-05-21T17:43:06Z")
I would say customizer for myself.
If you don’t make it then you are just a designer, engineer or whatever.
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### Author:  [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/5 "2014-05-21T17:46:28Z")
So there are truly only maybe 2-5 manufacturers of yoyos in the US. How do you compare company and manufacturer? Are those on in the same or are they completely different? I’m just trying to understand your logic.
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### Author:  [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/6 "2014-05-21T17:49:19Z")
I’m talking solely as a person who would design a something then have someone else make it. Like you for instance.
I think the term manufacturer is abused. You designed something but simply cant manufacturer it yourself. Hence I would say you are a company Mr. Joe.
General yo, Landon Balk etc. Manufacturers.
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/7 "2014-05-21T17:50:39Z")
> [@mullicabob](#):
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> I would say customizer for myself.
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> If you don’t make it then you are just a designer, engineer or whatever.
So CLYW, duncan, yoyofactory and G2 all come to mind as people who outsource the manufacturing
so they’re no longer a manufacturer?
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### Author:  [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/8 "2014-05-21T17:53:26Z")
To me the word manufacturer and company in the Yoyo business go hand in hand. This is the type of business that is pretty unfeasible besides a few to physically make their products.
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### Author:  [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/9 "2014-05-21T17:55:32Z")
> [@yomagic](#):
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> To me the word manufacturer and company in the Yoyo business go hand in hand. This is the type of business that is pretty unfeasible besides a few to physically make their products.
Naaahhh
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### Author:  [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/10 "2014-05-21T18:01:30Z")
People who physically make Yoyo= machinists
People who design Yoyo designer= designer
People who make design, work with machinists, work through getting all the yoyos parts, advertising, etc = company aka manufacturer
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### Author:  [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/11 "2014-05-21T18:03:53Z")
> [@yomagic](#):
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> People who physically make Yoyo= machinists
> People who design Yoyo designer= designer
> People who make design, work with machinists, work through getting all the yoyos parts, advertising, etc = company aka manufacturer
Third one is incorrect. You’d need to add. Company cant do it themselves so we need someone to do it for us. We are a sort of manufacturer.
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### Author:  [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/12 "2014-05-21T18:14:27Z")
Manufacturer: a person or company that makes goods for sale.
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### Author:  [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/13 "2014-05-21T18:16:44Z")
> [@yomagic](#):
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> Manufacturer: a person or company that makes goods for sale.
What’s the keyword there???
Makes
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### Author:  [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/manufacturer-i-dont-think-so/66397/14 "2014-05-21T18:57:48Z")
> [@sparhawk](#):
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> So CLYW, duncan, yoyofactory and G2 all come to mind as people who outsource the manufacturing
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> so they’re no longer a manufacturer?
Yyf makes some of their own stuff too, no?