# Making a fixed axle FH Zero **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [June 9, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124 "2015-06-09T17:48:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![trick420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@trick420](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/trick420)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/1 "2015-06-09T17:48:53Z")
So I got a ratty old FHZ in a trade a while back. Decided last night that I wanted to make it fixed axle, so I turned a nice walnut axle for it. I have it all set up and it’s pretty sweet, surprisingly, but it’s still too unresponsive. The response looks like it is flowable silicon - definitely silicon though, and it’s recessed a bit. [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3709313/IMG\_3606.jpg](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3709313/IMG_3606.jpg) So. What would be a good option for response to make this more responsive? You guys who play responsive on a FHZ, what are you using? ---
**Author:** ![Joeybob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@Joeybob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joeybob)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/2 "2015-06-09T18:19:18Z")
You just have to make the gap smaller I think; to do that you would use a shorter axle and then cut down the wall nut axle, that would do the trick. ---
**Author:** ![trick420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@trick420](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/trick420)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/3 "2015-06-09T18:23:13Z")
> [@Joeybob](#): > > You just have to make the gap smaller I think; to do that you would use a shorter axle and then cut down the wall nut axle, that would do the trick. Well, I already have significantly shortened the axle… The gap is only .1" which is what most fixed axle woodies are set at. I also have a fatter than normal string. If I go any narrower I won’t be able to pull off much in the way of tricks. I definitely need to come up with a stickier response. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/4 "2015-06-09T18:46:31Z")
Replace the response, should help a bit. ---
**Author:** ![trick420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@trick420](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/trick420)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/5 "2015-06-09T19:14:12Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > Replace the response, should help a bit. I can do that. What should I replace it with? The current response is really good when I have the bearing and a poly string in it to play unresponsive. Binds like a champ. Seems like just replacing a good response with a new response isn’t really getting to the heart of the issue. I’m thinking I need a different type of response? ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/6 "2015-06-09T22:04:53Z")
Does the wood axle spin or is it held in place fairly firm by the shells? Just wondering if you inadvertently created a trans-axle. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/7 "2015-06-09T22:07:09Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > Does the wood axle spin or is it held in place fairly firm by the shells? Just wondering if you inadvertently created a trans-axle. Yeah, do what Logi does and use rubber o-rings along the outside of the axle to keep it fixed. ---
**Author:** ![trick420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@trick420](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/trick420)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/8 "2015-06-09T22:59:43Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Yeah, do what Logi does and use rubber o-rings along the outside of the axle to keep it fixed. Not a transaxle for sure. It’s really tight in the yoyo body… ---
**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/9 "2015-06-11T23:12:30Z")
Is there a groove in the axle? If so, make sure it isn’t too wide. ---
**Author:** ![trick420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@trick420](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/trick420)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/10 "2015-06-12T14:58:04Z")
> [@yoyoavenger](#): > > Is there a groove in the axle? If so, make sure it isn’t too wide. Yeah, it’s .125 (1/8") Its the narrowest chisel I have. I have the same axle/groove on my wooden home made throws and they all perform well. of course they also have a single Duncan response pad on them. The problem with the FHZ is that the current response is recessed, so I can’t just put a response pad on the FHZ. I need to come up with another response solution I guess. ---
**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/making-a-fixed-axle-fh-zero/75124/11 "2015-06-14T10:56:25Z")
Unresponsive or slippy? these are two different things that many people seem to miss. Unresponsive → string not rolling or don’t roll enough when you tug it up. Slippy → string rolls when tug up, but it doesn’t grab/lose grip. If it’s unresponsive, try using different string, different wood, make the groove on the wood bigger (diameter). If it’s slippy, it’s the response pad.