# Made in USA

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [September 3, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774 "2023-09-03T13:43:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/21 "2023-09-03T14:52:47Z")

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Oh you know someone is gonna come in with a borderline racist comment on how USA yo-yos are just so much better

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**Author:** ![Jww](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jww/32/699941_2.png) [@Jww](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jww)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/22 "2023-09-03T14:59:09Z")

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I do not underestimate the yo-yo made in China, but I pay extra for Japanese and American production yo-yo.  
and the best Chinese manufacturer I think (doing OEMs) is FPM.  
In my opinion, Topyo and Aceyo are a little lacking compared to them.

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**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/23 "2023-09-03T15:00:12Z")

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> [@Yo-yo\_Power](#):
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> I will gladly pay %10-15 more if the yoyo and it’s packaging was made in USA.

When I was last looking at packaging quotes, USA made was about 10x the price for the smaller quantities I normally need. Yoyo manufacturing was about 2x-3x and didn’t include anodizing. A final retail price would probably be $90-$100 for a monometal? Maybe people want this? lol

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**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/24 "2023-09-03T15:00:42Z")

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Made in USA has been synonymous to Made by One Drop. No other shop in the US currently offers the same level of quality machining on yo-yos. FPM I would say is on a similar level when it comes to quality of machining. But is cheaper and more accessible to the average thrower who wants to have their design actualized. I think we’ve moved beyond the argument yo-yos made in China are inferior now for the most part.

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**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/25 "2023-09-03T15:02:29Z")

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Agreed, no other US shop has ever managed to come close to onedrop.

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**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/26 "2023-09-03T15:03:12Z")

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> [@yoyospirit](#):
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> No other shop in the US currently offers the same level of quality machining on yo-yos.

This is where I think people get the wrong ideas and confused. OD has being doing this a long time with people that specifically do it for a living (and have for a long time). Quality yo-yos and machining aren’t automatically made because of the geographical location lol

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/27 "2023-09-03T15:06:01Z")

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Yeah I’m not super excited by these America is better claims I would argue experience is what matters there are great Chinese shops and the like my only winner on American made would be keeping the logistics and the taxes lower but I would also buy Canadian or Mexican made yo-yos with that same statement. I don’t know of any central/South American yoyo brands though. I have to imagine they exist.

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**Author:** ![Yo-yo\_Power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f07891/32.png) [@Yo-yo\_Power](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo-yo_Power)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/28 "2023-09-03T15:07:34Z")

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Glad you replied. I actually started my yoyo company and was curious on this topic. Don’t get too excited I have lots of hand drawn throws but need to learn CAD a bit more to bring them to life. As well as get the capital to run production. Been watching some of your stuff @MarkD . I’m currently picking out models to resell but can only get duncan and and magic yoyo to respond. I’m trying very diligently to get with yoyo factory and yomega but can’t get any response to my emails and phone calls about wholesale.

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**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/29 "2023-09-03T15:07:55Z")

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The real comparison being made here should be Onedrop (best in America) vs FPM (best in China). I personally like FPM manufactured yoyos a lot more from the ones I’ve tried.

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**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/30 "2023-09-03T15:09:17Z")

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Are you able to tell between Chinese and American made, or able to tell between an inferior and superior product? The two are not always the same. Of course a $70 One Drop will feel better than say a $15 Magic Yo-yo in every metric, but you are also paying for what you get. On the higher end yo-yos, if you were not already aware of the country of origin, I bet you would not be able to tell. And on the note of yo-yos stripping, One Drop uses longer axles in virtually all their yo-yos. I blame the stripping on designers not understanding you need more than 2-3 threads of engagement.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/31 "2023-09-03T15:12:19Z")

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I said this before in another thread: What country something is made in doesn’t really mean much to me, what shop something is made in does.

If you’re planning on using OD here, then good luck in terms of turning a profit. High costs of production for a monometal which just translates to high cost on the retail market, not interested.

Chinese manufacturing is allowing most designers to do even crazier even more challenging designs. Since from what I have heard OD wont touch bi-metals or crazy machining with a 10 foot piece of barstock.

Exhibit A: 7068 Body + GR5 Ti Rim cap made by FPM (actually in the works)

 ![d8619831939f007b325fc1d78377de9a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/a/f/5af85fb0a9274d5c87db81e67d8667405f46bf3c.jpeg)

Now this isn’t to say that OD makes bad yoyos! It is just is not accessible by the majority of smaller US brands in order to turn a profit, along with being restrictive with what can actually be done.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/32 "2023-09-03T15:23:50Z")

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What a great thread

My smoothest and nicest feeling yoyos were made in china. Most of the time they feel too nice and I’m scared to unscrew them or use them while out and about, therefore not used as much. I know thats a rare case but still messes with me mentally lol. I think the feeling part comes down to the anodization. I have a one drop colabbed mfd yoyo and regular mfd yoyos made in china. Both anodized by ray. Both feel the exact same.

With one drop I have confidence in a perfect bearing seat almost every time and feel no fear in unscrewing one. I think 80% of my collection is one drop made and used most often. Some of my one drops made yoyos are extremely smooth but don’t quite stack up to a couple of my chinese made throws.

Edit: I’m not sure if mfd is made in china. I don’t believe mfd has stated where they get them.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/33 "2023-09-03T15:28:35Z")

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Someone should design a monometal and then get it made at every possible factory, would be a _very_ interesting experiment.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/34 "2023-09-03T15:31:08Z")

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Huh. I like the sound of that. Buying from my home country gives me the warm-and-fuzzies but conceptually, it’s aluminum on a lathe, shouldn’t be drastic as long as the designers know what they’re doing and the tolerances are tight.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/35 "2023-09-03T15:37:37Z")

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I’d say yes, I’d pay some bit extra for US manufacturing. But I need to know it’s gonna be good. Using OD as the machine shop? Good to go. YYR, Static, Markmont, all great. But the quality of the shop is what matters.

That being said, someone in here design a super performance, hyper rim weighted, wide, bell type shape, 7075 with side effects with me. We will make a monster and we will call it Monolith.

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**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/36 "2023-09-03T15:51:30Z")

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Just from the ones I’ve used/emailed… that’s at least 10 different yo-yo-capable machine shops and would cost like $20,000 total, and then afterwards you’d have 1500-2000 yoyos to get rid of

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**Author:** ![Yooo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooo/32/196320_2.png) [@Yooo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yooo)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/37 "2023-09-03T15:55:27Z")

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This post you qouted just spelled out exactly what I realized this past week when I stripped my yoyo. The tolerances on the bearing seat that some Chinese companies use definitely wears down over time and becomes pretty vibey. It seems like FPM didnt use this process on my unprld recognition. If the rest of yoyofriends yoyos are like this I’m a fan.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/38 "2023-09-03T15:55:33Z")

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For me, yoyo Empire especially feels like a company that set a standard for exceptional machined plastics that other companies had to catch up to.

I might be biased because I just got a Tsunami (6+ year old design at this point) and it’s easily one of the best yoyos I’ve ever thrown.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/39 "2023-09-03T15:57:36Z")

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> [@Yooo](#):
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> It seems like FPM didnt use this process on my unprld recognition.

As far as I am aware, the Recognition was not manufactured by FPM, but rather by Topyo.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/40 "2023-09-03T15:59:21Z")

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Everybody is all for made in the USA product but one drop is the only one to do it successfully, and I believe that’s mostly because they own their own machine shop.

We’ve seen tons of yoyos/companies made in the USA that aren’t one drop and they don’t do well because we are spoiled by Chinese prices.

I remember one new company getting blasted by people asking why their mystery box was a 7075 monometal for 120$. They were made in the USA and closed up very quickly.

There is currently another yoyo brand (yoyo kennel I believe?) That seems to be going through something similar.

I’m sure everyone here believes they would like to buy/support made in the USA yoyos, but sales don’t lie.

Now USA ano/coating is a different story…

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