# Made in USA **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 3, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774 "2023-09-03T13:43:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/322 "2023-09-09T04:38:32Z")
Nice cherrypicking lmfao ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/323 "2023-09-09T04:38:38Z")
> [@p44company](#): > > y’all forget yoyojams from plastics to metal yoyos was also made in USA? They’ve been out of business a long time and don’t count in this debate. ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/324 "2023-09-09T04:38:52Z")
for this to be even remotely valid youd have to list every OD yoyo and then every YYFr yoyo, and then see how the numbers look like. ---
**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/325 "2023-09-09T04:39:53Z")
Wide and Rim Weighted ---
**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/326 "2023-09-09T04:41:29Z")
> [@EOS44](#): > > can be objectively wide or narrow when youre measuring them up to a standard of performance. Which requires other yoyos to compare which, by definition, makes it a relative measurement. ie. subjective. You can accurately say, “One Drop doesn’t make (many) competition focused yoyos that are as wide or wider than their competitors.” You can not accurately say, “One Drop doesn’t make wide yoyos.” ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/327 "2023-09-09T04:43:11Z")
> [@mrJames](#): > > You can accurately say, “One Drop doesn’t make (many) competition focused yoyos that are as wide or wider than their competitors.” You can not accurately say, “One Drop doesn’t make wide yoyos.” i agree with this, yes. This is fair to say. Id even be able to very confidently say “One Drop makes close to no wide yoyos”, given how the ones that can be classified as “wide” are so few and far between in the sea of their catalogue and rerun choices. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/328 "2023-09-09T04:43:39Z")
> [@KorinaMcCarty](#): > > Edit: One car is 100% made in a union shop in the States. A 1969 Pontiac Trans Am. My car is made in Sweden by a Chinese owned company. I think the Swedes still have a free hand in running it. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/329 "2023-09-09T04:43:46Z")
mrJames king of yoyo semantics ![Screen Shot 2023-09-08 at 9.42.58 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/f/b/6fb7ba50ecae12b43004943d8f0ca22bcd925e6c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/330 "2023-09-09T04:43:47Z")
IMO, you should just get them made overseas. Cheaper and more value, so you might be able to pursue a riskier design for the same amount of money without any actual increase in risk. ---
**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/331 "2023-09-09T04:44:11Z")
He did say this: > [@fradiger](#): > > …if we compare recent onedrop releases (pick literally any timeframe in the past decade) to recent… _handwaves_ competition level everybody else releases… I just did what he asked. ---
**Author:** ![organya1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/organya1/32/300909_2.png) [@organya1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/organya1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/332 "2023-09-09T04:44:16Z")
Wide and rim weighted though ---
**Author:** ![IoSonoFormaggio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/iosonoformaggio/32/263206_2.png) [@IoSonoFormaggio](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/IoSonoFormaggio)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/333 "2023-09-09T04:45:08Z")
> [@fradiger](#): > > competition level everybody else releases I think you missed this part ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/334 "2023-09-09T04:45:09Z")
The OD Still Rollin was designed by a competitor and is 41.40 mm wide. That’s not typical for competition yo-yos. Maybe that is part of the reason why it was designed the way that it was(?) ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/335 "2023-09-09T04:46:25Z")
Theres a difference between “Designed by a competitor” and “Performance oriented yoyo”. ---
**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/336 "2023-09-09T04:46:27Z")
I don’t have to do anything, really, I was just doing what he suggested. He said “any” as I noted above. And for the record, I didn’t open this whole semantics debate, you can thank Jordan for that. ---
**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/337 "2023-09-09T04:46:36Z")
Let me try again, here’s every release from both since 2020 excluding the deeper state since it’s not really elgible. | onedrop | width (mm) | yoyofriends | width (mm) | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Still Rollin | 41.4 | pere rev 1 | 46.24 | | Wizard | 45.2 | paragraph | 44.79 | | FT 20/20 | 45 | ti koi | 43.57 | | Reboot | 42.9 | da vinci | 44.64 | | Wyvern | 46 | pheasant mono | 45.87 | | Kamuraiju | 42 | pheasant 2023 | 45.93 | | Thorn | 42.55 | nucleon | 44.05 | | t1 20/20 | 48.4 | graviton | 47.09 | | diorama | 37.8 | tachyon | 44.07 | | aitch | 39.62 | shortcut | 45 | | lunar eclip | 42.8 | magpie 2 | 47.49 | | panorama | 37.85 | baryon | 41.18 | | burnside 20/20 | 42.57 | vulture | 45.48 | | free solo | 46 | ti sunbird | 43.83 | | halifax | 39.9 | koi | 43.94 | | REV 2 | 44.6 | peregrine | 45.92 | | Nitro | 41.4 | | | | DB 20/20 | 45.42 | | | | Silhouette | 41.5 | | | | Intro | 41.4 | | | | | | | | | AVG | 42.7155 | | 44.943125 | ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/338 "2023-09-09T04:46:50Z")
thanks @chaosgow ---
**Author:** ![KirbyRobot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kirbyrobot/32/608292_2.png) [@KirbyRobot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KirbyRobot)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/339 "2023-09-09T04:46:55Z")
If you handed me a Still Rollin and told me to compete with it I’d probably just ff. Same goes for most people I’d imagine. Sorry if you read this Talia, it’s not personal. ---
**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/340 "2023-09-09T04:47:04Z")
Are those not competition YYFr yoyos? I believe their team all ran them. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/341 "2023-09-09T04:47:25Z")
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