# Made in USA **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 3, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774 "2023-09-03T13:43:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/282 "2023-09-08T23:06:40Z")
Honestly I couldn’t tell you, I never really payed attention when I got it from YoyoRaven via Vilmos, you would have to pry it out of my cold dead hands anyway as it’s one of my favorite ODs. I own two. To me this yoyo is 100% functional and the bearing sticking has no impact on it. I will say that the 10 balls are noticeably looser on bearing posts in general than generic CT bearings, which could contribute to some of your observations. ---
**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/283 "2023-09-08T23:08:43Z")
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah man, and now I understand why all ODs come with the 10-Ball. Variables… Speaking of bearings, the Diorama plays omfg nice with a groove or Pixel bearing. Just sayin’. Oh, and you guys so killed it with the SYFO and the GOPA. You and Yoyorec should totally do a collab. And hook up with Zipline for the strings. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Yo-yo\_Power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f07891/32.png) [@Yo-yo\_Power](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo-yo_Power)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/284 "2023-09-08T23:09:06Z")
@SR1 pretty much. Thanks for all the replies. Very informative. ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/285 "2023-09-08T23:09:20Z")
We build our posts to match the ID tolerance of our bearing. When you’re dealing with 2 ten thousandths of inch tolerance, you have to be very exacting. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/286 "2023-09-08T23:09:53Z")
The Graviton retails for $179.99. Maybe that is the threshold for higher precision. ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/287 "2023-09-08T23:10:39Z")
This makes a lot of sense. ---
**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/288 "2023-09-08T23:12:53Z")
The same can be said for my Tachyon, which retails for less (bearing comes off with fingers). Graviton is also a 7068+ti model and Tachyon is is 7068+SS, which accounts for the price bumps. I will say that my yoyofriends paragraph and sync both have tighter bearing posts. I also went through and grabbed like 12 other ODs and all of them have loose bearings, my Valor is an isolated offender. It’s also significantly easier to yank on a CT as opposed to the tenballs so maybe that contributes a bit. ---
**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/289 "2023-09-08T23:14:22Z")
> [@da5id](#): > > I’m sure there are exceptions. I’m sure there are exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![KorinaMcCarty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/korinamccarty/32/674591_2.png) [@KorinaMcCarty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KorinaMcCarty)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/290 "2023-09-08T23:21:41Z")
Just tested my Graviton bearing removal and it most definitely needs a tool. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/291 "2023-09-08T23:21:48Z")
Tachyon is $104.99. Just north of my Da Vinci, but I think that is significantly more than any OD of similar vintage. Especially tapped axle. But it really depends on whether every Graviton and Tachyon that ships has the same perfect bearing precision. A few that are perfect just means that perfection is within the larger range. Some may be loose because they are actually too loose. Or those could be scrapped because the mfr. considers looseness to be a fault but tightness to be acceptable. Without the actual manufacturer volunteering their standards, it is all speculation. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/292 "2023-09-08T23:26:45Z")
Seems like a great yo-yo anyway. ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/293 "2023-09-08T23:29:09Z")
Thanks for the discussions. It’s time for me to head for the weekend. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Yo-yo\_Power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f07891/32.png) [@Yo-yo\_Power](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo-yo_Power)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/294 "2023-09-08T23:38:12Z")
@da5id thank you very much ---
**Author:** ![KorinaMcCarty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/korinamccarty/32/674591_2.png) [@KorinaMcCarty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KorinaMcCarty)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/295 "2023-09-08T23:44:04Z")
I agree, play is very good. Been playing it a lot the last couple of days. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/296 "2023-09-09T01:12:39Z")
Made in USA… So getting back on topic, let’s not limit this to yoyos and OD vs the world. So who makes your car, TV, stereo, phone, computer…? You name it. Where is it made? 🙊 🙉 🙈 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/297 "2023-09-09T01:25:34Z")
Just checked my laptop and it said made in China (samsung galaxybook) ---
**Author:** ![KorinaMcCarty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/korinamccarty/32/674591_2.png) [@KorinaMcCarty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KorinaMcCarty)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/298 "2023-09-09T01:36:22Z")
For me mainly my yo-yos. Cars are made in Germany. Motorcycle made in Italy. Guitars made in the States. Guitar amplifiers made in the States and one is Vietnam. Bicycle made in the States. iPad\phone is most likely made in China. If I have a choice I look for places that have a good labor practice. If I buy a new car it will most likely be made in a union shop in the States. Edit: One car is 100% made in a union shop in the States. A 1969 Pontiac Trans Am. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/299 "2023-09-09T01:45:49Z")
How I feel after this thread… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/e/e/5ee3c00e5bbfbd8a6c75fb5b5b771f44816aa42f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![KirbyRobot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kirbyrobot/32/608292_2.png) [@KirbyRobot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KirbyRobot)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/300 "2023-09-09T02:28:06Z")
I would not consider this a narrow yoyo because I’d consider it a gigantic yoyo ☠ “Wide” isn’t subjective and I don’t think the argument that it is subjective really fits. Some of the examples you used (Like the Format: C) Do not fit into the category of being wide relative to its size, at all. I’d argue the only time something is “wide” being subjective is when someone’s used to 50mm wide yoyos for 1A and they drop down to 47mm width, then they’d probably argue that 47mm is narrow. Not that anyone would really _agree_ with them because its absurd to unironically think of 47mm as narrow (at least right now). Like, it doesn’t matter how gigantic or oddly shaped the yoyo is, if its wide its wide. @IoSonoFormaggio kinda hit the nail on the head. It’s objectively wider than the average. Thus, it is a wider yoyo, and by extension A wide yoyo. > [@mrJames](#): > > To use David’s point, the iYoyo Spire is 60mm wide. If it were a 59mm diameter 1A yoyo most would consider that wide. But since it’s a 75mm 4A yoyo, I guarantee you that I don’t consider it wide when I’m trying to catch it. But it is a wide yoyo? This doesn’t change anything. We just shifted the focus away from 1A to 4A. If you took a 4A yoyo and used it for 1A you’d surely notice that its noticeably 1. Larger and 2. Wider? I don’t see or get this argument. ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/301 "2023-09-09T02:42:17Z")
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