# Made in USA

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [September 3, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774 "2023-09-03T13:43:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/202 "2023-09-08T21:20:04Z")

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I see one silver yoyo that proves One Drop doesn’t need to make overly wide yoyos that aren’t considered legendary.

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**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/203 "2023-09-08T21:20:27Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/e/0/ce016ac16eae0598dc8f78ec094eeeacd57dc196.jpeg)  
…only tangentially relevant, but can we appreciate how nice the TopYo bearing tool remover is? All of my topyo bearing seats have been fine, but if they aren’t, at least they sell you something nice for it.

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**Author:** ![Nova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nova/32/172750_2.png) [@Nova](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nova)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/204 "2023-09-08T21:21:32Z")

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Oh, I understand! That makes sense. So in this sense, the 543 (pictured on the right) would be wide because it’s 54x54, or a 1:1 ratio, with other examples being the 5050 (50x50) and 583 (58x58). A Leviathan 8 (43x52) would be fairly wide with ratio of 83%, correct?

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**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/205 "2023-09-08T21:22:10Z")

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Since when did tight bearing seats become THE marker for lower quality of machining?

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**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/206 "2023-09-08T21:22:40Z")

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Is it bad I instantly thought of this pic when I saw yours

 ![Screen Shot 2023-09-08 at 2.22.05 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/3/7/b37ce540cc6e9ae486cc8227be162e61c2526f9e.jpeg)

Sorry lmfao

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**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/207 "2023-09-08T21:22:42Z")

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Yeah 1:1 is very wide in my opinion. 83% I would consider wide. Anything above 80 I would say wide, but agains, that’s my view.

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**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/208 "2023-09-08T21:23:25Z")

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Holy ■■■■ :skull::skull::skull:

 ![Screen Shot 2023-09-08 at 2.23.04 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/9/7/39741bf96931130ac3abba086fbe10d6d2584786.png)

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**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/209 "2023-09-08T21:24:02Z")

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So you contradicted my contradiction of a point that was the same as yours. Context is fun. 😛

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**Author:** ![Vektor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vektor/32/222165_2.png) [@Vektor](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Vektor)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/210 "2023-09-08T21:24:05Z")

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Nothing against CLYW but that is what they are charging retail for some monos right?

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**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/211 "2023-09-08T21:24:12Z")

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No one said it was. I agree that Chinese factories do good work these days. The bearing post thing is a choice they make. We make a different choice. Each has it’s upside and downside.

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**Author:** ![theendofcake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theendofcake/32/245990_2.png) [@theendofcake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theendofcake)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/212 "2023-09-08T21:24:45Z")

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glad to see every yye forum user is here! hi everyone 👋

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**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/213 "2023-09-08T21:25:15Z")

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> [@Funny yoyo memes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/funny-yoyo-memes/296963/692):
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**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/214 "2023-09-08T21:25:23Z")

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“No one said it was”, yet it has been heavily implied throughout this thread. Anyways wasn’t targeted at One Drop.

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**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/215 "2023-09-08T21:26:45Z")

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> [@YoYoFactory - Made in USA](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-made-in-usa/72180/88):
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> One small point I’d like to make. A few people in this thread have stated or alluded to the idea that making goods in China is always cheaper, and specifically VERY much cheaper. For the record, this is only true in some specific situations under specific conditions. “Made in China” doesn’t always mean cheaper, and these days there are quite a few industries where the cost is pretty much the same after you factor in shipping and duties. Right now, one of the biggest advantages to manufacturing…

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**Author:** ![mrJames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrjames/32/236865_2.png) [@mrJames](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrJames)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/216 "2023-09-08T21:28:29Z")

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> [@yoyospirit](#):
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> Since when did tight bearing seats become THE marker for lower quality of machining?

When removing a bearing for regular maintenance caused damage that compromised the quality of the yoyo. But I get what you’re saying: there are a number of other factors that define quality. I think bearing posts are just the most obvious and easiest to pick on.

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**Author:** ![theendofcake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theendofcake/32/245990_2.png) [@theendofcake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theendofcake)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/217 "2023-09-08T21:29:36Z")

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i think this goes back to the convo on whether vibe or ano issues matters, which is a whole other bucket of worms

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/218 "2023-09-08T21:30:13Z")

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It’s a neat tool though.

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**Author:** ![chaosgow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chaosgow/32/61394_2.png) [@chaosgow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaosgow)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/219 "2023-09-08T21:34:13Z")

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It’s a knockoff of the YYR one. Something topyo was known for lol

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**Author:** ![KirbyRobot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kirbyrobot/32/608292_2.png) [@KirbyRobot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KirbyRobot)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/220 "2023-09-08T21:35:09Z")

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> [@da5id](#):
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> It’s the ratio that’s important its subjective what ratio means wide.

I hate to butt heads with literally one of the most important companies in history but I wonder if this is really true. Width and whether a yoyo is to be considered “wide” or “narrow” is a spec statistic. It’s not about ratio at all. If you have a yoyo outside the scope of “average” by definition, it is wide. Your guys’ definition of what makes a yoyo “wide” isn’t correct, and I think you’re applying subjectivity to something that is explained with statistics and averages.

If you have a yoyo that’s oversized by definition, at 60mm in dia, and 50mm width, it is wider than the average yoyo; thus, it is a wide yoyo. The ratio means nothing, it’s still a wide yoyo.

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**Author:** ![chaosgow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chaosgow/32/61394_2.png) [@chaosgow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaosgow)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/made-in-usa/383774/221 "2023-09-08T21:35:14Z")

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