# Mac Miller

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529
**Category:** Unrelated Discussion
**Created:** [October 9, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529 "2011-10-09T14:09:57Z")
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#### Post date: [October 10, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/21 "2011-10-10T21:57:44Z")

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> [@noskillz](#):
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> Nothing about that is good, sorry bro. Honestly the only good rap is mainstream rap. I don’t listen to rap often but when I do I want it to be something everyone else knows too for a party or something of the sort.

And this is a fine example of how the music industry has brainwashed the juvenile minds of todays youth into being only into what is hyped.

Typical.

Listen to something beautiful and meaningful, see it aint well known, oh snap avoid like the plague. Listen to something autotuned and mainstream produced for money, see its well known, oh snap this is awesome!

Pathetic losers.

People like that are the reason music is dying. Keep it real.

J

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#### Post date: [October 10, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/22 "2011-10-10T22:04:18Z")

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> [@Jayyo](#):
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> > [@noskillz](#):
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> > Nothing about that is good, sorry bro. Honestly the only good rap is mainstream rap. I don’t listen to rap often but when I do I want it to be something everyone else knows too for a party or something of the sort.
> 
> And this is a fine example of how the music industry has brainwashed the juvenile minds of todays youth into being only into what is hyped.
> 
> Typical.
> 
> Listen to something beautiful and meaningful, see it aint well known, oh snap avoid like the plague. Listen to something autotuned and mainstream produced for money, see its well known, oh snap this is awesome!
> 
> Pathetic losers.
> 
> People like that are the reason music is dying. Keep it real.
> 
> J

Even though I prefer rock and pop, Eminem is the only rapper I actually can listen to. I hate raps like Snoop Dog or 50 Cent.

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#### Post date: [October 10, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/23 "2011-10-10T22:10:06Z")

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I agree that most mainstream rap isn’t very good and is overrated, but I do realize there is some talent there. Personally, I believe Mac Miller is talented, but I dislike, how Raphael said, that nearly all of his lyrics are about partying, alcohol, women, etc. I’ve heard some pretty good rhymes from him. Also, Mac Miller isn’t even that mainstream. Lil Wayne is just…no… I \<3 Nujabes. What gets me, is the fact I enjoy songs that I can feel the emotions put into it, disregarding the genre. Most mainstream songs in general, I just don’t feel anything from them.

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### Author: ![noskillz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@noskillz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noskillz)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/24 "2011-10-11T02:15:10Z")

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> [@Jayyo](#):
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> > [@noskillz](#):
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> > Nothing about that is good, sorry bro. Honestly the only good rap is mainstream rap. I don’t listen to rap often but when I do I want it to be something everyone else knows too for a party or something of the sort.
> 
> And this is a fine example of how the music industry has brainwashed the juvenile minds of todays youth into being only into what is hyped.
> 
> Typical.
> 
> Listen to something beautiful and meaningful, see it aint well known, oh snap avoid like the plague. Listen to something autotuned and mainstream produced for money, see its well known, oh snap this is awesome!
> 
> Pathetic losers.
> 
> People like that are the reason music is dying. Keep it real.
> 
> J

which is completely understandable and i do agree with that. i personally do not listen to rap as i mentioned above, to be completely honest i listen to exclusively country most of the time, but that is a different topic. unfortunately for me, a lot of people around me do, so i do still hear it. but the main places i would listen to rap, like i mentioned above would be at a party or around large groups of people where it would be popular so I am going to want to listen to something everyone at the party would know. But if i listen to rap personally it definately will not be mainstream, and i have never gotten into autotuned anything. i must say if it is mainstream though they must be doing something right, am i wrong? the objective of these mainstream rappers are to make it so people hear their music, they gotta make their money too.

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#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/25 "2011-10-11T04:38:49Z")

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I’ve made it a point never to decide I like a song based on popularity it’s easy for me to like a song that people aren’t ga ga over, but I find it difficult to like a song that is mainstream.

But I will listen to a song if it’s popular or not if I enjoy it.

When it comes to rap I don’t listen to most of it because I can’t stand the vulgarity and explicit themes but I do love to hear rap as long as it’s not too over the top.

On the topic of music I find that a lot of people tend to limit themselves to one genre when there’s so much more to experience then just one kind of music. I often times have to remind myself there’s more then just electronica. 😃

Like 80’s Club Dance. C=

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#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/26 "2011-10-11T07:30:25Z")

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> [@Raphael](#):
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> > [@PlasmaGear](#):
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> > > [@Raphael](#):
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> > > he’s absolute garbage
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> > I disagree. I think he can compete with Lil Wayne.
> 
> Is lil Wayne supposed to be a high standard for rapping? Honestly All Mac Miller traps about is getting high, partying, and drinking. Lil wayne shows no emotion in his lyrics or his voice. I’m going to quote a rapper “Rap Used to be word play and passion. Then some kids came in and made it a fashion.” Honestly all these rappers talk about are women and partying. I don’t even know how Lil wayne got famous.
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> > [@almostfamous](#):
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> > Whose Mac Miller?
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> 9
> 
> Your lucky
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> honestly I don’t care how good or complex someone rhyme scheme is. Lyrics make the song. (Unless there are NO lyrics, I can bump a sick beat.) When it comes down to it, he’s just some kid who is going to die and burn.

wayne vs mac is apples and oranges\* waynes got half his life on this dude and macs delivery is horrible. take this from someone who rapped in “The Cutting Room”. Look it up. NYC… On the whole Suburban rapper thing Chris Webby is the best. Even calls out my town  
[url=[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZImczdw9mE[/url]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZImczdw9mE%5B/url%5D)

> [@Jayyo](#):
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> > [@noskillz](#):
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> > Nothing about that is good, sorry bro. Honestly the only good rap is mainstream rap. I don’t listen to rap often but when I do I want it to be something everyone else knows too for a party or something of the sort.
> 
> And this is a fine example of how the music industry has brainwashed the juvenile minds of todays youth into being only into what is hyped.
> 
> Typical.
> 
> Listen to something beautiful and meaningful, see it aint well known, oh snap avoid like the plague. Listen to something autotuned and mainstream produced for money, see its well known, oh snap this is awesome!
> 
> Pathetic losers.
> 
> People like that are the reason music is dying. Keep it real.
> 
> J

HAAAAAAAAAA wow Josh out did yourself this time. Stick to your day job. Your making great points but you don’t get music industry\* if your saying this.

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#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/27 "2011-10-11T14:51:25Z")

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Oh on the contrary good sir, I have been involved in music for years, I know what I am talking about as I have seen quite a bit of stuff going on behind the scenes.  
“Go back to my day job?” You know what, make me, I dare you.  
Yeah, thats what I thought.

J

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#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/28 "2011-10-11T16:07:01Z")

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So How bet dem Mac and Cheese Miller?

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### Author: ![noskillz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@noskillz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noskillz)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/29 "2011-10-11T16:17:02Z")

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> [@Raphael](#):
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> So How bet dem Mac and Cheese Miller?

It’s still the cheesiest :wink:

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#### Post date: [January 15, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/30 "2012-01-15T05:58:58Z")

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im with “almost famous” hip hop in the day was actully “hip hop” with lyrics that deal with lifestyle i will quote N.W.A most notorious group rappers that talk about growing and living in the ghetto COMPTON heights or 2pac talking about his mother,drugs,prison and Thug Life or biggie or wu-tang but before that it was like hip hop disco but anywho to modern hip hop, now these day they talk about drugs,girls party and ETC but they are not even using a hip hop beat so i am not a big fan in today music unless it has a hip hop beat to it so jay-z i listen or drake in a on-off situation

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#### Post date: [January 15, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/31 "2012-01-15T17:21:43Z")

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> [@Jayyo](#):
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> You want to know what good rap is?
> 
> This is the definition.
> 
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlkM3Qu5BM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlkM3Qu5BM)
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> Educate yourselves, and quite trying to be a little annoying hypebeast by being into your pathetic little stupid and meaningless mainstream rap.
> 
> Got it?
> 
> J.

We all have preferences, and I agree that this is good stuff, but one of the biggest reason why people like the luvsic series is because of Nujabes. It’s a good song, but it’s really, really hard to understand and follow Shing02 when he’s rapping. It’s funny because in interviews, he doesn’t really have this strong foreigner’s accent.

As for MacMiller, he’s young, he still has potential. We just have to wait until he discovers and becomes solid with his own style since he is still “new”. But as for now, I think there are plenty of other better rappers than him.

As for mainstream rappers, they are mostly “trash”. However, there are still some exceptions, and it’s nice to listen to some decent mainstream rap from time to time.

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#### Post date: [January 15, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/32 "2012-01-15T17:27:27Z")

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People can’t say rap is bad. If they do, they have never listened to Blackalicious or Immortal Technique. Those guys kill it. They put out music with more heart and soul than many other musicians. See: Dance with the Devil by Immortal Tech.

That being said, I like most rap. And Mac Miller is hit or miss with me, he only has a few songs that I like, but those songs I REALLY like. e.g. Donald Trump, Frick Park Market.

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#### Post date: [January 16, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/33 "2012-01-16T04:34:20Z")

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Lil wayne is a joke… mac isn’t too bad, I just haven’t had the time to get into him.

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#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/34 "2012-01-17T01:40:41Z")

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I guess Mac is ok. Lil Wayne can still kick his butt though. Let me explain first before you start to criticize. I think lil Wayne’s most meaningful song is how to love. Lol that’s like the only song where he only cusses twice. I have yet to hear such a song from Mac. Ok I’m still a pop and rock person. Any day I will choose the wanted, one republic, Coldplay, Adele, foster the people, and likewise over rap. To be honest, I am disgusted by 50 cent akon Mac and everyone else. I admit to liking the song cat daddy. The beat is real catchy but I wish the words weren’t cusses 3/4 times though. When my brother listens to his rap, It annoys my to the core.  
So I’m a pop and rock person through and through, but will listen to the more decent rap from time to time. I guess stay true to what you like, but don’t be afraid to listen to other music or give it a chance, you might actually like it.

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#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/35 "2012-01-17T01:44:28Z")

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Rap= anyone can do it.

Unless you are singing fast, or actually singing.

Nicki minaj( I know she is annoying) is like death to my ears. She just talks with an annoying, voice that she trys to make sound low. Half of the rappers out there aren’t any better than anyone, except the fact they have 300 tattoos( nothing against tattoos but lil wayne you know?).

Please don’t staart a war.

80’s-90’s rap FTW!

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#### Post date: [January 19, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/36 "2012-01-19T18:51:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Rap=anyone can do it

And you don’t want to start a war. Don’t say “Anyone can do it.” Many of these artists put their heart and soul into this music.

I would recommend you research before you input into a discussion such as this…

You just said so many ignorant things that it makes me sad…

Anyway, I found I actually like 1 Weezy song. “The Motto” It is super catchy and has a good flow to it.

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#### Post date: [January 19, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/37 "2012-01-19T22:25:08Z")

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:wink: These were the days.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnm0FILNb5M)

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#### Post date: [January 21, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/38 "2012-01-21T04:20:32Z")

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Garbage.  
Enimem is better by far.

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#### Post date: [January 21, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/39 "2012-01-21T04:52:31Z")

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Modern rap is like modern dubstep: everything is garbage with a few exceptions. Usually the most popular ones are the worst.  
The older versions are so much better.

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#### Post date: [January 21, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mac-miller/30529/40 "2012-01-21T15:14:20Z")

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lets see if people know what this means YMCMB

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