# M888's 1A MEGAPOST/guide v1 (complete)

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [August 11, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819 "2010-08-11T18:17:54Z")
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This is a work in progress :wink: Please notify me of any changes need be made  
  
[b]TOC:

what yoyo to get?  
-response types  
-bearings  
-finishes  
   
What makes a yoyo a yoyo?  
-parts  
-weight placement  
-material  
-shape  
  
First tricks to learn:  
-sleeper  
-breakaway  
-trapeze  
-forward pass  
-around the world

[b]  
trick set 1:  
-straight throw  
-string tension  
-Braintwister  
-Double or nothing  
-split bottom mount/split the atom  
-Mach 5[/i]  
-atom bomb

Trick set 2:  
-strong/straight throw  
-binds  
-the matrix  
-plastic whip  
-rewind  
-boing-e-boing  
-1.5 mount/Mcbride roller coaster  
-buddha’s revenge  
-eli hops  
-kwijibo  
-slack trapeze  
-wrist whip  
-mondial/pop 'n fresh  
-iron whip  
-laceration  
-magic drop

trick set 3:  
-skin the gerbil  
-jade whip  
-wrist mount  
-spirit bomb  
-hook  
-kamikaze  
-Black hops  
-seasick

Final trick list  
-and whut  
-super man  
-hourglass  
-double iron whip  
-ladder escape  
-white buddha  
-yuuki slack  
-Suicide  
  
further advanced tricks:  
xela  
grawrd  
rethink yoyo  
  
Making combos  
-frontstyle (taught by Jayyo)  
-Sidestyle (taught by me)

The Final verdict:  
credits

What yoyo to get?  
So you have decided to stat to yoyo eh? But now you are asking yourself, “what yoyo to get”? My number one recommendation is to get a fast201 if you are un-sure you want to stay with yoyoing. But, If you are sure you will stay with yoyoing through thick and thin, then get a velocity. And if you have a change of heart and decide to stay with yoyoing, upgrade from that fast 201 to a velocity. The reason being, is that velocitys have good rim weighting and have ajustable response levels, what does that mean? You’ll soon find out.

Fast 201:[YYF Fast 201 – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/27/YYF-Fast-201)  
Velocity:[Velocity by YoYoFactory – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/28/YYF-Velocity)

of course, pick up some strings aswell:

> **[Yo-Yo String](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yo-yo-string)**

Ok, now lets examine the innards of your velocity (If you aren’t totally committed to yoyoing, throw your fast201 for a little bit and see if yoyoing is your thing!)

The bearing: Open up the yoyo, you will see a small silver cylinder with a string attached. This is the ball bearing. The bearing contains 8 balls and is a size A (small bearing) You attach your string’s loop to the bearing, while you create a slipknot on the other end of the string, thats what goes on your finger.  
[http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/004-adjust-yo-yo-string.html](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/004-adjust-yo-yo-string.html)

Response: Your velocity uses an adjustable response, when you turn the dial, the yoyo becomes more or less responsive, we’ll touch on that later. For now, dont play with it.

Finish  
the finish is standard plastic, nothing special, no grindability…  
  
What makes a yoyo…a yoyo?

Well, if you are serious, you eventually will consider buying a new yoyo, while you are still learning, your velocity will do you fine, but sometimes, you just feel like you want something more. This decision is yours, but let me share some things to consider and some things you just need to know about yoyos:

Parts:  
the body- the whole yoyo  
axle- the piece of threaded metal that sticks out of one side, in some cases, this axle is floating, that means the axle can be un-screwed by hand.  
bearing seat-where the bearing rests  
rims-the two outer parts on the body

weight placement:  
Weight is mainly placed in two places, the rims and the center. Center weighted yoyos are more tolerable of a sloppy throw, while heavily rim weighted throws vibe on an off throw. (vibe meaning the yoyo will send vibrations up the string. Think of this as a pinewood derby car, If you put lead in the front of the car, it will travel fast downhill but a slight turn may drive the car out of controll (ie, the yoyo in your throw, the speed is your sleep time) Then, there is the derby car that has lead distributed evenly. The car may handle turns better, the will also not travel as fast (less sleep time). While your throw plays a big factor in sleep time, weight placement plays a role too.

Material:  
the two commonly used materials in yoyos are plastic and aluminum. Plastics do not get dings, but metals can grind better with an adapted surface (Blasted, matte)

Shape:  
The most common 1A shape is butterfly, H and v  
Butterfly-rims shaped like butterfly wings \>\<  
V- Rims create a V, this allows a larger catch zone and less strinf contact for suicides  
H- Rims shaped like an H, usually with a diameter of 55mm+, this setup maximizes rim weight.

First tricks:

sleeper: You are going to want to curl your wrist and really get this strong, at this point, you should have at least 15 seconds before advancing.

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Basics - Yo-Yo Trick Sleeper](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/006-basic-yo-yo-sleeper.php)**
>
> Learn how to throw a sleeper with a yo-yo at YoYoExpert.com.

Breakaway: Same idea as sleeper, sideways…15-20 seconds

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Basics -Breakaway](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/013-basic-breakaway.php)**
>
> Learn how to throw the breakaway yo-yo trick at YoYoExpert.com.

Forward pass: A looping trick, still good to learn

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Basics - Forward Pass](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/009-basic-forward-pass.php)**
>
> Learn how to do the beginner yo-yo trick Forward Pass from the YoYoExpert.

Around the world: Seems impossible at first, keep at it

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Basics - Around the World](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/010-basic-around-the-world.php)**
>
> Learn how to do the beginner yo-yo trick Around the World from the YoYoExpert.

trapeze: Get this trick down, and get it good. Listen to andre’s tips

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Man on the Flying Trapeze](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/018-intermediate-man-flying-trapeze.php)**
>
> Learn the amazing string trick man on flying trapeze from the YoYoExpert.

Trick set 1:  
sleeper v2: Practice some more and get 30 seconds

string tension: Becomes important later on

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/7/e/c7ed0d903c4b90503c9b51fff78e2d6305e6c3c2.jpeg "Adjusting Your String Tension: A Tutorial") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccAm3rlIUe0)

braintwister: Your first string trick

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Brain Twister](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/020-intermediate-brain-twister.php)**
>
> Learn the intermediate yo-yo trick Braintwister at YoYoExpert.com.

double or nothing: Same as trapeze IMPORTANT TRICK!!!

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Double or Nothing](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/022-intermediate-double-or-nothing.php)**
>
> Learn the yo-yo trick Double or Nothing from the YoYoExpert.

split bottom mount/split the atom: The mount takes practice, so practice…

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Split the Atom](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/023-intermediate-split-the-atom.php)**
>
> Learn split the atom and the split bottom mount at YoYoExpert.com.

atom bomb:simple if you have mastered the mount

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Atomic Bomb](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/026-intermediate-atomic-bomb.php)**
>
> Learn the yo-yo trick Atomic Bomb from the YoYoExpert.

Mach 5: Simple

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Mach 5](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/028-intermediate-mach5.php)**
>
> Learn the intermediate yo-yo trick Mach 5 from YoYoExpert.com.

trick set 2: unresponsive from here on out

sleeper v3: You need to get your throw perfectly straight and have 1min+ sleep time, same with breakaway. To practice straight throws, line the gap of the yoyo up with a straight line on the floor and throw away.

binds: Get these strong, as important as a sleeper

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Bind Returns](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/030-intermediate-bind-returns.php)**
>
> Learn how to return an unresponsive yo-yo using a bind return from the YoYoExpert.

the matrix: Great combo move, learn it with your soul

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - The Matrix](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/033-advanced-matrix.php)**
>
> Learn the yo-yo trick The Matrix from YoYoExpert.com.

plastic whip: Some find it hard, just practice it.

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Plastic Whip](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/034-advanced-plastic-whip.php)**
>
> Learn how to perform the Plastic Whip yo-yo trick from YoYoExpert.com.

rewind: Another combo move, smoooooth trick

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Rewind](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/035-advanced-rewind.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Rewind from the YoYoExpert.

boing-e-boing: REALLY HARD takes a LOT of practice

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Boing E Boing](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/037-advanced-boing-e-boing.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Boing-E-Boing from YoYoExpert.com.

1.5 mount/Mcbride roller coaster: The 1.5 mount is required for you to move on, so get it good

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - McBride Roller Coaster](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/039-advanced-mcbride-roller-coaster.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick the McBride Roller Coaster from YoYoExpert.com.

buddha’s revenge: Learn it, required for white buddha proficiency

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Buddha's Revenge](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/041-advanced-buddhas-revenge.php)**
>
> Learn the 1.5 mount and the advanced yo-yo trick buddhas revenge from the YoYoExpert.

eli hops: A fun trick that can be used in combos and takes practice

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Eli Hops](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/042-advanced-eli-hops.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Eli Hops from YoYoExpert.com.

kwijibo: Good to practice your precision

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Kwijibo](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/043-advanced-kwijibo.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Kwijibo from the YoYoExpert.

slack trapeze: Hard, its a good one, practice, string tension

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Slack Trapeze](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/047-advanced-slack-trapeze.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced string trick Slack Trapeze from the YoYoExpert.com.

wrist whip: average difficulty, good in combos

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Wrist Whip](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/050-advanced-wrist-whip.php)**
>
> Learn the Wrist Whip yo-yo trick from YoYoExpert.com.

mondial/pop 'n fresh: hard but good to learn, precision trick

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Pop N Fresh](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/057-advanced-pop-n-fresh.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Pop-N-Fresh from YoYoExpert.com.

iron whip: Practice young jedi…

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Pop N Fresh](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/057-advanced-pop-n-fresh.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Pop-N-Fresh from YoYoExpert.com.

laceration: Easy, fun, can cause snags

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Laceration](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/055-advanced-laceration.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Laceration from the YoYoExpert.

magic drop: important  
[http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/058-advanced-magic-drop.html  
 ](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/058-advanced-magic-drop.html)

skin the gerbil: Smooth and good to learn

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Skin the Gerbil](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/060-expert-skin-the-gerbil.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Skin the Gerbil from YoYoExpert.com.

jade whip- important, takes practice

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Jade Whip](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/061-expert-jade-whip.php)**
>
> Learn the advanced yo-yo move Jade Whip from the YoYoExpert.

wrist mount-&nbsp; if you can get a good double or nothing, this should come easily

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Wrist Mount](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/064-expert-wrist-mount.php)**
>
> Learn the essential wrist mount yo-yo trick from YoYoExpert.com.

spirit bomb- average difficulty

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Spirit Bomb](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/065-expert-spirit-bomb.php)**
>
> Learn the revolutionary yo-yo trick Spirit Bomb here at YoYoExpert.com.

hook-learn it, it’s important

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Hook](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/078-expert-hook.php)**
>
> Learn the expert Hook yo-yo trick from YoYoExpert.com.

kamikaze- Take this for combos/good practice

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Kamikaze](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/080-expert-kamikaze.php)**
>
> Learn the expert yo-yo trick Kamikaze from YoYoExpert.com.

Black hops- Takes practice, good for precision&nbsp;

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Black Hops](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/082-expert-black-hops.php)**
>
> Learn the incredible Black Hops yo-yo trick from YoYoExpert.com.

seasick- Hard, but impressive

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Seasick](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/072-expert-seasick.php)**
>
> Learn the ever popular Sea Sick yo-yo trick from YoYoExpert.com.

Final trick list:

and whut-n/a

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - And Whut](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/086-master-and-whut.php)**
>
> Learn the amazing And Whut yo-yo trick from the pros at YoYoExpert.com.

super man-n/a

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Superman](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/087-master-superman.php)**
>
> Learn the amazing Superman yo-yo trick here at YoYoExpert.com.

hourglass-important

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Hour Glass](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/088-master-hour-glass.php)**
>
> Learn the expert yo-yo trick Hour Glass from the pros here at YoYoExpert.com.

double iron whip-hard, takes practice

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Master - Double Iron Whip](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/089-master-double-iron-whip.php)**
>
> Learn the amazing double iron whip yo-yo trick here at YoYoExpert.com.

ladder escape-long trick

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Master - Ladder Escape](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/090-master-ladder-escape.php)**
>
> Learn the expert yo-yo trick Ladder Escape from the pros here at YoYoExpert.com.

white buddha-easy

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Master - White Buddha](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/092-master-white-buddha.php)**
>
> Learn the amazing White Buddha yo-yo trick here at YoYoExpert.com.

yuuki slack-cool looking, somewhat easy

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Master - Yuuki Slack](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/091-master-yuuki-slack.php)**
>
> Learn how to do Yuuki Slack from YoYoExpert.com.

Suicide-one of the hardest tricks you can do, takes a LOT of practice

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Expert - Suicide](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/062-expert-suicide.php)**
>
> Learn the expert yo-yo trick Suicide at YoYoExpert.com.

More advanced tricks:

> **[xelala](https://www.youtube.com/user/xelala)**
>
> http://www.xcube.fr/

[http://www.grawrd.com/tricks.html](http://www.grawrd.com/tricks.html)  
[http://www.rethinkyoyo.com/tricks-by-difficulty.html](http://www.rethinkyoyo.com/tricks-by-difficulty.html)

Making combos:  
I suck at frontstyle, so here’s Josh’s post on FS combos:

> **[Braintwister combo elements.](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,9205.0.html)**
>
> Yep. Yoyo used: Ooch yo. J.

And here’s my explanation on sidestyle combos:

“im going to keep this simple, all you have to do to make combos is string tricks together, maybe do half a trick and transition into another trick. For example, a good combo would be to do an and wut, up to the point you get into a stalled 1.5 mount and then start doing a white buddha, into an hour glass and then bind back, it’s really that simple”

> [@""](#):
>
> Just a tip for the sidetyle combos, I reccomend to play around with the trapeze mount. Just string together some trapezes/double on trapezes/eli hops/trapeze bros slacks/skin the gerbil-like motions and things like that. It looks very impressive, yet is very easy.

credits:  
Andre, the organizer, Xela and rethink yoyo for their videos  
Josh (Jayyo) For his awesome frontstyle post  
Everyone at yoyoexpert for being so Kick\*\*\*  
Brett Grimes for the high speed video

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### Author: ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/2 "2010-08-11T20:13:43Z")

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Bump, finished v1  
08/11/2010  
4:14 pm

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### Author: ![Newbies\_United](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/newbies_united/32/440_2.png) [@Newbies\_United](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Newbies_United)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/3 "2010-08-11T20:34:52Z")

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Nice guide. I need to show this to my friend.

Just a tip for the sidetyle combos, I reccomend to play around with the trapeze mount. Just string together some trapezes/double on trapezes/eli hops/trapeze bros slacks/skin the gerbil-like motions and things like that. It looks very impressive, yet is very easy.

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### Author: ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/4 "2010-08-11T20:42:18Z")

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> [@Newbies\_United](#):
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> Nice guide. I need to show this to my friend.
> 
> Just a tip for the sidetyle combos, I reccomend to play around with the trapeze mount. Just string together some trapezes/double on trapezes/eli hops/trapeze bros slacks/skin the gerbil-like motions and things like that. It looks very impressive, yet is very easy.

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### Author: ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/5 "2010-08-11T21:35:58Z")

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I think you should give credit to Brett for that video. The links of the others give credit themselves.

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### Author: ![patrickcondon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/patrickcondon/32/619950_2.png) [@patrickcondon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/patrickcondon)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/6 "2010-08-11T21:38:12Z")

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I don’t think we need another trick list here when all of them are already cataloged on this site.

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### Author: ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/7 "2010-08-11T22:21:59Z")

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> [@patrickcondon](#):
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> I don’t think we need another trick list here when all of them are already cataloged on this site.

ahh, but I find some trick useless to know

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### Author: ![yoyoz1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoz1/32/388_2.png) [@yoyoz1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoz1)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/8 "2010-08-12T00:11:18Z")

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You could also put the Duncan Mosquito as an option, since its cheaper and for those who dont want to order online it can be found at walmart for 6$. Also you could post some pictures of the different yoyo shapes, and other things.

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### Author: ![patrickcondon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/patrickcondon/32/619950_2.png) [@patrickcondon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/patrickcondon)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/9 "2010-08-12T03:06:37Z")

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> [@mista8eight8](#):
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> > [@patrickcondon](#):
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> > I don’t think we need another trick list here when all of them are already cataloged on this site.
> 
> ahh, but I find some trick useless to know

Why are basic picture tricks useless to know? They are one of the greatest crowd-pleasers out there.

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### Author: ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/10 "2010-08-12T03:30:25Z")

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> [@patrickcondon](#):
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> > [@mista8eight8](#):
> >
> > > [@patrickcondon](#):
> > >
> > > I don’t think we need another trick list here when all of them are already cataloged on this site.
> > 
> > ahh, but I find some trick useless to know
> 
> Why are basic picture tricks useless to know? They are one of the greatest crowd-pleasers out there.

I originally planned this as the fastest way to get from beginner to pro, So in turn for that, I mixed the order of things around and removed tricks not usually seen in combos. The only picture trick I’ve seen in combos is triple tower.

you seem a little edgy lately, everything OK?

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### Author: ![yoyoaddict96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/dfb087/32.png) [@yoyoaddict96](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoaddict96)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/11 "2010-08-12T04:58:11Z")

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suicides are not the most difficult.

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#### Post date: [August 12, 2010, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/12 "2010-08-12T12:26:30Z")

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> [@yoyoaddict96](#):
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> suicides are not the most difficult.

they do take up a lot of time to learn, so why waste your time with 1 trick when you could have a bunch of other tricks down in the same time.

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> [@mista8eight8](#):
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> The only picture trick I’ve seen in combos is triple tower.
> 
> you seem a little edgy lately, everything OK?

I find that hard to beleive. you’ve never seen someone end in a basic tower, or anything else?

And I don’t understand why, not only here, but practically everywhere I post a suggestion, you jump on it by saying I’m argueing or I need to calm down. I’m just stating my opinion, which is practically all of these tricks are listed on this very site, and some people learn in a different order, or want to learn picture tricks. If someone states an opinion that doesn’t match yours, just sit down and take a breath before you ask if they’re edgy or if everything is okay, that’s just stupid.

take one and count to ten

\<3 pat…

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### Author: ![skillz123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skillz123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skillz123)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/m888s-1a-megapost-guide-v1-complete/17819/14 "2010-08-12T15:45:05Z")

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Um wow that pretty much sums every thing up.
