# Looping Yoyos

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [June 23, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172 "2012-06-23T21:42:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![liife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/liife/32/1060_2.png) [@liife](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/liife)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/21 "2012-06-25T18:19:59Z")

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> [@GunstarHero](#):
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> I agree raiders are a great choice…if you can get a pair that is already modded. I tried my hand at modding a pair a few months ago and was…somewhat successful.
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> One turned out perfectly…the other ended up being overtightened too much.
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> Maybe you should pick up a pair of Raider Ex’s, they come with a variety of different sized spacers which you can use to adjust the gap to your liking.
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> I’m not too familiar with them though…modded raiders might be better. It may just be a preference thing.

This was my question for Jayyo as well. How does a Raider Ex with the smallest spacers match up to well-modded Raiders?

Also in regards to Speetles: I have a pair of speed beetles modified to have loop 720 response. Very fun little things. I’m not good enough at 2A to say good/bad, but fun can never be bad.

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**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/22 "2012-06-25T20:05:46Z")

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> [@turtle](#):
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> > [@dynikus](#):
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> > no one mentioned sunset trajectories? odd  
> > If you can find a pair of those on the b/s/t, they’re great. Grant Johnson swears by 'em.  
> > I would write about how the 900s, unleashed, raiders, etc are good, but people kinda already did that enough for me. haha
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> I think the reason no none mentions them is because they are very hard to come by, being discontinued and all…

well yeah, but grant still gets them. granted he’s sponsored by yyj. but still, there are still aquariuses on the b/s/t every now and again.  
I got a pair of sigma blade zweis which were discontinued for a while before I picked them up.  
They’re nice loopers if you can get your hands on a pair.

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**Author:** ![kuyaChristian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kuyaChristian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kuyaChristian)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/23 "2012-06-25T20:36:43Z")

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How about Fireballs? Err, modded fireballs? I’ve heard a few players in the Philippines who use Fireballs instead of Raiders or whatnot.

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**Author:** ![JeiCheetah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeicheetah/32/612192_2.png) [@JeiCheetah](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JeiCheetah)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/24 "2012-06-25T20:44:05Z")

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> [@kuyaChristian](#):
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> How about Fireballs? Err, modded fireballs? I’ve heard a few players in the Philippines who use Fireballs instead of Raiders or whatnot.

Ill comment on this.  
Let it be known that fireballs and raiders are the EXACT same yoyo. They are molded on the same yoyo mold, exact same specs, weight, everything. Only difference is that the fireball uses a plastic sleeve instead of a bearing that sits on a slightly greater circumference axle.

A modded fireball is essentially removing the axle and plastic sleeve and replacing it with raider axle and bearing, at that point, it is literally a raider with fireball graphics. From there, its just a matter of doing the raider mod.

The reason some players prefer to use fireballs over the raiders is color preferences. Fireballs tend to be stocked with brighter and more appealing colors than raiders, so many players take the extra time to mod the fireballs instead.

Literally though, the same yoyo.

J

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**Author:** ![yoyoguy888](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoguy888/32/319_2.png) [@yoyoguy888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoguy888)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/25 "2012-06-25T20:44:51Z")

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If I got the raider ex’s would I have to mod it at all or would they be fine with the different spacers?

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**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/26 "2012-06-26T16:50:41Z")

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> [@yoyoguy888](#):
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> If I got the raider ex’s would I have to mod it at all or would they be fine with the different spacers?

Raider ex doesn’t have to be modded…  
unless you’re really wanting something different, it’s decent in stock, as long as you can choose which spacers that suit your needs.

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**Author:** ![kuyaChristian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kuyaChristian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kuyaChristian)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/27 "2012-07-19T19:33:24Z")

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Thank you for your response, Jay. I figured I should bump this so others can see this, too. :]

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**Author:** ![northstarrocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@northstarrocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/northstarrocks)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-yoyos/39172/28 "2012-08-22T20:16:31Z")

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i don’t loop anymore but way back when i had a duncan proyo and a klutz rocket yoyo i had so much fun with those

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