# Looping help **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [May 21, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590 "2019-05-21T16:41:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pep65](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pep65/32/54510_2.png) [@pep65](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pep65)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590/21 "2020-03-16T20:02:23Z")
well, i’m not sure that mine sleeps when i’m in full flow, i just don’t give it time. I’m exactly the same as twitch, if i go for a sleep at the end of the string i lose control. So i don’t think sleeper is the key. As soon as its at the end of the string i tug back. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590/22 "2020-03-16T21:10:20Z")
> [@ryanmcg](#): > > it’ll sleep with a harder throw, you just need to cushion it more when it hits the end of the string to prevent it from returning. Yeah, this is what I meant. I have to be gentle (cushion) with throwing it to get it to sleep. ---
**Author:** ![pep65](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pep65/32/54510_2.png) [@pep65](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pep65)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590/23 "2020-03-17T18:11:34Z")
Hmmmmm Just tried very hard to concentrate on whats happening when i’m looping, and i guess i was wrong i am in fact going into sleeper but depending on my throw, it varies on for how long. I’m now using a 720 and its a blink and its returned, going back to my 360 its alot slower and i can almost make a cup of tea before it returns. I think its a case of practice, and as you’ve already said work through it. One thing that i have noticed is the throw makes a BIG difference. my 360 is totally different from my 720, and my 720 changes when i put different spaces in. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590/24 "2020-03-17T18:16:31Z")
Today on [2A Tuesdays](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/2a-tuesdays/313632/42) I shared a YYF video that explains a lot of looping dynamics when you look at set ups. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/2/6/f26da23d2a37360e768156b26818fb0d39eae0ac.jpeg "A LOOK inside the LOOP 2020 by YoYoFactory") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQdwwvTD5OE) ---
**Author:** ![pep65](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pep65/32/54510_2.png) [@pep65](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pep65)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590/25 "2020-03-17T18:29:02Z")
Just read that post. Exactly, totally agree. At the minute i’m just using red spaces on my 720. But i have tried green and blue and combos of each. My first 720 came with red spaces and i couldn’t do anything, changed the spaces to 1 green 1blue and i was away. Eventually went back to both red, which i now prefer. The 2020 looks nice but i think for me theres just too much choice to modify. My opinion may change in time (it usually does). I also agree with string length, shorter string is easier, but i sure do wish i could do loops with long string, i’m just not that good yet. Any tips ? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590/26 "2020-03-17T19:26:37Z")
> [@pep65](#): > > i sure do wish i could do loops with long string, i’m just not that good yet. Any tips ? Have to just state the obvious, practice followed by some more practice, long string loops need speed and power. I enjoy the process of the grind of 2A. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-help/302590.md?page=1)