# Looping Advice **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [November 22, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094 "2019-11-22T15:07:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/1 "2019-11-22T15:07:51Z")
so i’m assuming Imperial yoyos are better for looping then Butterfly? _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/1))_ and what shape Imperial should i get i know there are rounder ones and closer to a Butterfly design then Imperial which ones should i get? ---
**Author:** ![pmdon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pmdon/32/62892_2.png) [@pmdon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pmdon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/2 "2019-11-22T15:37:50Z")
FYI, loopers are typically “modified” shape, which I think is what you’re probably thinking of when you say “Imperial”. At least, that’s what I was told back in the '90s. ![968919444](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/a/d/1ad7e72d8d7d12495b372768893afa6aa83917bd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryanmcg/32/72186_2.png) [@ryanmcg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ryanmcg)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/3 "2019-11-22T15:44:11Z")
I also hear them often referred to as Raider shaped, from the Yomega Raider (which is terrible out of the box, don’t get one of those @PCaliyoyos). Loop 720 is good, Initiator looks good, and the iyoyo Sunrise looks good. If you want something cheap the Loop 360 isn’t bad. Duncan makes a decent looper too that’s pretty inexpensive. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/4 "2019-11-22T15:53:19Z")
Modified is exactly what i was thinking of ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/5 "2019-11-22T15:53:34Z")
ok awesome! i’ll look into the 360 thanks! ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryanmcg/32/72186_2.png) [@ryanmcg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ryanmcg)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/6 "2019-11-22T16:00:27Z")
It might not be the best choice as it has pads instead of a starburst like most new loopers, but I really like it. Just be careful when you oil the bearing; if you get any oil on the pads they expand and pop off and you will have to replace them. Can’t beat the price though. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryanmcg/32/72186_2.png) [@ryanmcg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ryanmcg)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/7 "2019-11-22T16:03:23Z")
Have you done any looping before? It’s really fun, but basic loops can take a very long time to learn. It’s definitely something you should learn though. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/8 "2019-11-22T16:04:38Z")
nope i have not done any looping but i randomly wanted to start 2A yesterday so we’ll see what happens! ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/9 "2019-11-22T16:05:00Z")
ok i’ll be careful of that ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryanmcg/32/72186_2.png) [@ryanmcg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ryanmcg)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/10 "2019-11-22T16:08:17Z")
Cool man. Some people just skip it these days, but it’s great to learn. Looping yos are great fun just to throw too. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/11 "2019-11-22T16:11:39Z")
i have 2 responsive Butterfly yoyos and i was messing around this morning and i did two breakaways at once… the string tangled BOTH yoyos hit me in the forehead course’ i started yelling (“yelling” as in saying “ow” lol) and speed walking (for some reason) and my brothers just looked at me said “are you ok?! how many fingers am i holding up?!” ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/12 "2019-11-22T16:34:39Z")
Looping is fun, don’t get overly frustrated if you’re not making the progress you want immediately, it’s arguably the hardest style. I’d also suggest either the Loops or the Sunrises, and avoid the Initiators. I’m sure they’re great for advanced 2A players but they’re a bit heavier than average and switching to my Sunrises was a much more pleasant experience. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/13 "2019-11-22T16:35:12Z")
ok cool thanks Durfee! ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/14 "2019-11-22T18:34:06Z")
Get a pair of Yoyofactory loop 720’s ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/15 "2019-11-22T20:10:30Z")
Modified shape is better for looping, but a real classic butterfly shape is better for milks, but obviously its better to learn on actual loopers, so buy 720s and crank em ---
**Author:** ![Smothers\_Tim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smothers_tim/32/98638_2.png) [@Smothers\_Tim](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smothers_Tim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/16 "2019-11-22T22:41:45Z")
I totally agree on the Sunrise. Out of the box, one of the best Loopers I own. 720s are good too. Oracles will be easier on your strings (starbursts are the best response but string shredders) since they use Silicone response, making learning more consistent. Finally, I love the Loop2020. The Shu Takada setup is amazing. Hands down favorite along with my Sunrises. Spend time learning with each hand and realize it will take a very long while to become competent. One of the best feelings I’ve had since landing Spirit Bomb the first time. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/17 "2019-11-23T00:01:14Z")
i looked at the 720’s they are $17-$18? is this EACH? or $17 for two? ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/18 "2019-11-23T00:04:05Z")
That’s each. Duncan Hornets are a bit more affordable. ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/19 "2019-11-23T00:04:54Z")
Its each. I think theyre worth it tho. Can also go with hornets like mark said. ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094/20 "2019-11-23T00:05:22Z")
does YYE sell it? [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looping-advice/311094.md?page=2)