# Looking for some buying advice...

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [December 1, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807 "2009-12-01T03:39:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![stick42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@stick42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stick42)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807/1 "2009-12-01T03:39:41Z")

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looking for some advice on buying my first metal yoyo. Right now I currently own a YYJ new breed and a YYF PGM. I really like the rim weight on the new breed but not very fond of the shape as I find snap starts difficult with this one. The weight and size on the new breed feels very comfortable and solid in my hand but I would like to go for something a bit smaller and lighter. I love the shape of the PGM, snap starts are much easier but I find the PGM spinning out on me way more than my new breed. The hub stacks I don’t really care for that much though as they seem to get in the way sometimes. I don’t really care about cosmetics though a nice looking yoyo is a plus. I have been looking at a couple yoyos already as they seem like the general direction I want to go:

YYF Frantic  
YYF Hectic  
YYF Dv888  
YYF 888(preowned if I can find one)

any help is appreciated, thanks!

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**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807/2 "2009-12-01T03:50:45Z")

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You can try looking into a Boss.  
They have the shape of a 888ish PGM.  
Solid throw, no stacks, weight is perfect.

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**Author:** ![stick42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@stick42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stick42)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807/3 "2009-12-01T03:54:35Z")

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I was also looking at an M1 just now. They seem well built and pretty solid for only being $45

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**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807/4 "2009-12-01T03:55:39Z")

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They’re undersized.  
Compared to the PGM and Newbreed, Its SMALL.

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**Author:** ![theyoster109](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoster109/32/244_2.png) [@theyoster109](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theyoster109)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807/5 "2009-12-01T04:25:25Z")

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Boss is perfect to you, it is a PGM/888 shaped yoyo. And it is a very solid throw. Weight isn’t too light or too heavy. And it is Not too Flashy.

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**Author:** ![stick42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@stick42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stick42)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-some-buying-advice/8807/6 "2009-12-01T16:37:54Z")

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thanks guys! I’ll probably end up purchasing a boss as soon as some money comes my way and they restock them here. 8)