# Looking for recommendations for my first real yoyo with Side Effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 20, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330 "2026-07-20T00:12:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Abyss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/the_abyss/32/704667_2.png) [@The\_Abyss](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Abyss)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/1 "2026-07-20T00:12:07Z")
Yes we all know I love undersized yoyos… so I’m want to stick around that. They’re the most fun and easy to throw. Anywhere around 53 diam or less. I doubt there are undersized bimetals with SE’s, but if so I’d be very eager. Right now I want to find something that looks nice and is undersized. I plan to try finding some nice spiral SE’s. I will want something fun to throw them with, thanks!! ---
**Author:** ![Maelstrom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/maelstrom/32/644737_2.png) [@Maelstrom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maelstrom)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/2 "2026-07-20T00:33:54Z")
I’ve been a big side effects fan for a while now. The only bi metal yoyo that uses side effects I’m aware of is the Atmos Projects - Khuno which is definitely not undersized and reasonably difficult to find. Side effects are incredible and are such a unique and satisfying feature to tinker with. ---
**Author:** ![NuroVolt7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nurovolt7/32/671908_2.png) [@NuroVolt7](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NuroVolt7)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/3 "2026-07-20T00:40:41Z")
OD 54 is the smallest SE yoyo as far as I know ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/4 "2026-07-20T00:46:16Z")
i would recommend the parlay, or a sudo, both are on the bst right how. of you like organics, and i believe they fit your size goal. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/5 "2026-07-20T00:58:33Z")
Rebirth and Reboot are 53mm. 54 gen 2 is 54mm. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/6 "2026-07-20T01:01:30Z")
> [@NuroVolt7](#): > > OD 54 is the smallest SE yoyo as far as I know 54 had a notable diameter, but because it was the largest (so far). ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/7 "2026-07-20T01:03:18Z")
Also, Kamuraiju at 54mm ---
**Author:** ![kksimon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kksimon/32/46108_2.png) [@kksimon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kksimon)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/8 "2026-07-20T01:09:09Z")
Look up the Dietz on OD. ---
**Author:** ![Ed-C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ed-c/32/132116_2.png) [@Ed-C](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ed-C)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/9 "2026-07-20T01:17:24Z")
The Noma by Atmos is a sweet undersized SE throw! 52.6 mm and \<60 g! It’s light, floaty, and organic. Unfortunately, I think it’s sold out. ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/10 "2026-07-20T15:00:22Z")
reboot and rebirth are fun. rebirth has some cool colors out there ---
**Author:** ![Bigjeezus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bigjeezus/32/683192_2.png) [@Bigjeezus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bigjeezus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/11 "2026-07-20T15:11:02Z")
I think the noma might be smaller! ---
**Author:** ![Bigjeezus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bigjeezus/32/683192_2.png) [@Bigjeezus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bigjeezus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/12 "2026-07-20T15:11:25Z")
second this one, Rebirth is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Christianmckz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/christianmckz/32/99933_2.png) [@Christianmckz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Christianmckz)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/13 "2026-07-20T15:21:22Z")
Yelets is a 52.6147 diameter ---
**Author:** ![Christianmckz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/christianmckz/32/99933_2.png) [@Christianmckz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Christianmckz)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/14 "2026-07-20T15:48:10Z")
also, Zero gravity Janus is also pretty cool, if you want a something more micro at 45mm. It’s light and narrow so more oriented for modern responsive. My recommendation, if you can find one is the luftverk daytona SE it’s 52.81mm diameter; my personal go to yo-yo. I like it so much I am always just considering selling all my other yo-yos :joy: ---
**Author:** ![Shwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shwa/32/108351_2.png) [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/15 "2026-07-20T17:38:33Z")
I too, was going to recommend OD Rebirth! ---
**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/16 "2026-07-20T22:02:01Z")
- Parlay is 53.6mm - Prescription is 53.6mm - 1to1, despite being huge, is 53mm - Cascade is 53mm - Sakura SE is 52mm - Lab Experiment #1 is 50.42mm - Dietz is 50.4mm The Parlay is a really solid throw and One Drop still seem to be releasing them all these years later. So they’re accessible and also reasonably affordable. Haven’t tried a Dietz, but the Lab Experiment & Halifax are pretty similar and I’ve used both. They definitely feel & play like minis. If that’s what you’re after then maybe try to track one down. Cascades have a good reputation (never tried one myself), but they’re usually a bit expensive. Prescriptions have a somewhat similar design (never tried one either!) but are harder to find. Sakura SE and Lab Experiment #1 are just… _incredibly_ rare. 1to1s are seriously so insanely wide that it feels like cheating. Probably not what you would describe as undersized. It feels like . ---
**Author:** ![The\_Abyss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/the_abyss/32/704667_2.png) [@The\_Abyss](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Abyss)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2026, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/17 "2026-07-22T02:49:59Z")
I think I’m going to wait for a Market I like, or an Aitch in obviously the Market. Markets are very beautiful. I don’t really know all what’s out there though so XD ---
**Author:** ![washyjoshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/washyjoshe/32/612061_2.png) [@washyjoshe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/washyjoshe)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2026, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/18 "2026-07-22T03:01:04Z")
Rebirth would be my recommendation. Great player, relatively inexpensive, and it’s fun to think it’s inspired from the project and project 2. Kind of a project 3. It’s been the throw that pops back out and in to my rotation. I now own 2. ---
**Author:** ![Shirtpants](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shirtpants/32/662788_2.png) [@Shirtpants](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shirtpants)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2026, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/19 "2026-07-22T03:10:52Z")
+1 for the Reboot. “Are we not men? We are DEVO!” ![20260721_200842](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/f/2/8f233b3c681d5ae2086edb1b1a6f8bf82beafdc2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SkareCrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skarecrow/32/674772_2.png) [@SkareCrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SkareCrow)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2026, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330/20 "2026-07-22T03:41:58Z")
![IMG_1640](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/5/4/5546dbb5a0ca2577a7affc15bbeced82aa649c1a.jpeg)Kamuraiju FTW!!! Was not really in to it at first, but I get it now. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-recommendations-for-my-first-real-yoyo-with-side-effects/449330.md?page=2)