# Looking for info on 4th run chiefs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 18, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877 "2023-09-18T22:24:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KirbyRobot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kirbyrobot/32/608292_2.png) [@KirbyRobot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KirbyRobot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/1 "2023-09-18T22:24:13Z")
Hi gang! As the title says, I’m looking for info on 4th run chiefs. I’ve done tons of digging and sleuthing through these forums, and I haven’t been able to find a release date, colorways, specs, or basically anything. Even google doesn’t yield very helpful results. The best I’ve found is a general release period of December 2011, potentially around Christmas, it maybe weighed the same as the 2nd run or 66g. Maybe the Musket colorway got re-released in this run alongside 4 other colorways. Besides that, it’s essentially nada. If you have any more detailed info, please let me know! ---
**Author:** ![tigerbeatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tigerbeatt/32/227915_2.png) [@tigerbeatt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tigerbeatt)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/2 "2023-09-19T05:47:35Z")
Good luck on your research! I always wanted to see the complete history of chief, the masterpiece😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/3 "2023-09-19T09:03:18Z")
@nothingfaced might be the man to ask. ---
**Author:** ![nothingfaced](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nothingfaced/32/50156_2.png) [@nothingfaced](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nothingfaced)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/4 "2023-09-19T09:37:12Z")
I can’t add anything, unfortunately. I’ve got some Chief’s from around that period but couldn’t tell you from which run. ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/5 "2023-09-19T10:37:33Z")
I don’t know what a chief is! If only someone made a documentary… ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/6 "2023-09-19T11:11:02Z")
You know I gotchu king 🕶🕶🕶 I did a DEEP DIVE on this… Here’s the three colorways I believe YYE received: Musket Edition, Minty Mint (Green), and Dewey Moss. I’m fairly certain there were more colorways in the run though, keep reading. Source: [Chief product page captured on December 29, 2011 via Wayback Machine.](https://web.archive.org/web/20111229104838/http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/515/CLYW-Chief) Explicitly states that the 4th run release on YYE happened on Thursday December 15th 2011 @ 10:00 PM EST. According to the description the fourth run was “extremely limited.” Too bad Wayback Machine blows cheeks at preserving images, otherwise we’d have YYE’s nice images too! Oh well. I ALSO did a Facebook deep dive around November/December 2011 and found what I believe to be the full 4th run colorways: ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.27.18 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/9/d/39d544c068a9ac101f036beb520898fd247f0426.png) _Aaand fast forward to “tomorrow”_ ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.54.20 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/9/d/69de056d520ce9ae8defe791b375b08e9bf5e243.jpeg) **Photographed individually & all named, thank goodness:** ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.55.11 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/2/6/0268a480778cc6895ce516c460fa955a2d2ed145.jpeg) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.55.36 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/5/b/f5b25eb52b4f50458beb4ae5bcf1a17c4dba914a.jpeg) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.57.11 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/6/4/b6409c9f86ce975b0ee1b9b45dfc8ac04dd4f7ff.jpeg) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.57.34 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/2/3/e23784d4e1be5739d85f3ee2d233c12203a419ab.jpeg) (IIRC the Dandelion Chief is 7075) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.58.11 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/2/2/1229b1c6c15ed1c3c364dde177256fe119ed1ea4.jpeg) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.59.07 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/3/7/53784a25840cebf65c7cfd0199a8408c3c5fa517.jpeg) Bonus pics: ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.26.12 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/3/3/43385d0221e16f24007ab4252448a5e0a8bd8612.jpeg) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 3.24.06 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/d/f/0df725d11b862c8a87caa0115203374b0c04b34f.jpeg) ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 4.16.36 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/4/f/54fe3307a8107475eb2a79c1edd610398cbb6621.jpeg) The day after these were posted, CLYW posted the announcement below as to where they’re going. Makes sense that they drop ~half a month later on the 15th of December. All adds up to me. ![Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 4.17.32 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/b/7/1b70ffbb16239def2be51864e0af4f4440604d6c.png) I believe that solves this mystery! FBI if you’re hiring, I can pretty much find anything lmfao Also Major W for your efforts in helping preserve yoyo history btw, cause that ■■■■ is SPOTTY dude. Kinda scary how much modern yoyo history exists ONLY on sites like these, which are now few and far in between. We gotta keep it alive man. Also, for anyone wondering the same: > [@GTDropKnot](#): > > I don’t know what a chief is! The most famous and arguably the most important CLYW yoyo after The Peak. Influenced yoyo design tremendously (I literally cannot overstate that) and still holds up to this day, over a decade later, as a truly great playing yoyo. Was considered by CLYW themselves to be their “flagship” yoyo for years and years. Really excited to see how @KirbyRobot tells its’ story. It’s a super important yoyo to me personally and one of my ALL TIME all time favorites without question. What’s cool is that a yoyo called the Leaf is currently in the works, which is a slightly modified/successor to the Chief. Super excited to get my hands on one of those things. Anyways… all this Chief talk makes me want to go throw mine… so Imma go do that now lol ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/7 "2023-09-19T11:14:07Z")
Lol I figured and was half trolling bc I keep hearing about the documentary in the works. Nice job sleuthing all this! ---
**Author:** ![Shwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shwa/32/108351_2.png) [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/8 "2023-09-19T12:00:32Z")
LF: Musket Chief!! @SR1 …. You are the true KING! Nice work brother. I’ve been wanting a chief for so long but not many solids show up in BST. One day! ---
**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/9 "2023-09-19T12:37:10Z")
Such a great yoyo. Man, we need more of these @unklesteve. ---
**Author:** ![tigerbeatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tigerbeatt/32/227915_2.png) [@tigerbeatt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tigerbeatt)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/10 "2023-09-19T12:38:05Z")
> [@SR1](#): > > Explicitly states that the 4th run release on YYE happened on Thursday December 15th 2011 @ 10:00 PM EST I really didn’t know that my mintymint was from 4th run. Thanks you @SR1 and I cannot agree more what you said about chief😀 ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/11 "2023-09-19T12:47:15Z")
Bear Trap was also coined a Chief predecessor. > [@New release from CLYW - The BEAR TRAP!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-release-from-clyw-the-bear-trap/308652): > > From CLYW: Our latest return top is a love-letter to the early days of CLYW. A reminder to ourselves that sometimes it’s ok to take that weird, hilarious idea and just run with it. During a brainstorming session in December 2018, we started talking about classic CLYW designs that we still loved and what ideas and features we wanted to bring back and update. As always, our conversation turned to the Chief. What could we d… Chief [Prototype](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=1381) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/5/e/b5ee666f24444aa051eab5deedb18eb768a82fc9.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/4/2/7423d05248030a992a04a130317ca5708f5e9bff.jpeg) @yoyobrothers ---
**Author:** ![unklesteve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unklesteve/32/106934_2.png) [@unklesteve](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/unklesteve)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/12 "2023-09-19T13:39:44Z")
Just sent the final Leaf revision into prototyping. Hopefully this one solves the problems from the last one and we can get production moving. In a perfect world we _might_ be able to squeak out a few just barely in time to maybe ship for Christmas maybe. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/13 "2023-09-19T14:37:22Z")
Amazing! I’m now a believer of Christmas miracles! ---
**Author:** ![KirbyRobot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kirbyrobot/32/608292_2.png) [@KirbyRobot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KirbyRobot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-info-on-4th-run-chiefs/384877/14 "2023-09-19T23:16:49Z")
Popped through a bunch of this stuff and cross-analyzed it with my notes The information that the 4th run was “extremely limited” checks out, lots of this is super helpful. Some of it is 3rd run stuff mixed in throughout though (Like Clareview and Buffalo Bob) Spence getting in on the end credits with this post fr > [@unklesteve](#): > > In a perfect world we _might_ be able to squeak out a few just barely in time to maybe ship for Christmas maybe. Maybe. If we do I guess I’ll have to work a little bit extra over Christmas break 🙄 can’t just NOT get a Leaf fr.