# Looking for good high end yoyo **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 25, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906 "2014-08-25T23:45:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/21 "2014-09-02T18:15:53Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > If the bearing is freshly cleaned that’s certainly possible. Spin times depend on a lot of factors besides the yo-yo: the bearing quality, the cleanliness of the bearing, your arm strength, the quality of your throw, the string length, and your ability to pinch/twist the string for balancing purposes. > > I try to keep these factors as constant as possible so I have a meaningful reference frame. For that reference frame, bi-metals usually break 10 minutes, sometimes 10.5, occasionally 11, and non bi-metals usually hit 6 - 9 minutes depending on their weight distribution. That’s why for me the Leviathan 5 has such impressive spin times. It’s a small yo-yo and only 65g but it has ridiculous rim weight. Someone else may well get 12 minutes with one. It’s possible I could. I generally only do 1-2 throws to determine spin times to avoid the effect of declination in bearing performance. Also it’s just really boring to time 10 minute throws over and over… yea. I dont think I ever had a yoyo spin for less than 7 minutes when I ever bothered to test them. The YYJ classic (64g OG) iirc spun exactly 7m07s with an nsk gold ct bearing. After the Irony, theres the L5s 9m40ish with a generic unbranded chinese 10 ball concave. Ive heard one claim that the L5 can spin 12 minutes with that persons nsk concave. ---
**Author:** ![Blazvatan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/blazvatan/32/1200_2.png) [@Blazvatan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Blazvatan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/22 "2014-09-02T18:56:51Z")
I think you should up your price range a little and get the clyw chief ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/23 "2014-09-02T19:25:21Z")
Sadly, I do not think $120 is the price range for a “high end” yo-yo. It actually is the high end of the regular metals category. When I think of “high end” these days, I think of the YYR Draupnir, Laser YYMonster Agonist or the TP Palpitation; all at $200+. ---
**Author:** ![Moise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moise/32/955_2.png) [@Moise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Moise)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/24 "2014-09-02T19:30:21Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > Sadly, I do not think $120 is the price range for a “high end” yo-yo. It actually is the high end of the regular metals category. When I think of “high end” these days, I think of the YYR Draupnir, Laser YYMonster Agonist or the TP Palpitation; all at $200+. I feel as if you cal certainly get a “high end” metal for $120. a yyf shutter is $45ish and considered a budget metal. 85ish would be normal for a metal, while 120 will get you a throw easily capable of pulling off the strongest of combos ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/25 "2014-09-02T19:35:52Z")
> [@Blazvatan](#): > > I think you should up your price range a little and get the clyw chief That’s a pretty ignorant response He gave a price range it’d be better to respect it I think. The chief is just another yoyo and doesn’t really outperform any of the throws I’ve listed earlier. That said I wanted to bring up the barracuda even though it’s currently out of stock along with the amplitude. ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/26 "2014-09-03T15:03:51Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > That’s a pretty ignorant response > > He gave a price range it’d be better to respect it I think. The chief is just another yoyo and doesn’t really outperform any of the throws I’ve listed earlier. > > That said I wanted to bring up the barracuda even though it’s currently out of stock along with the amplitude. The Amplitude is pretty weak compared to a lot of other yo-yos in that price range. An Aftershock, Accel, Ares Star, or Magnum would all be better choices. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/27 "2014-09-03T15:15:26Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > The Amplitude is pretty weak compared to a lot of other yo-yos in that price range. An Aftershock, Accel, Ares Star, or Magnum would all be better choices. I did mention the aftershock if you look at the first page and just like to give the user options. I also don’t see the ares star or magnum in stock or even carried at yye which is why I haven’t mentioned them. Accel is also over his price point ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/28 "2014-09-03T21:21:06Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > I did mention the aftershock if you look at the first page and just like to give the user options. I also don’t see the ares star or magnum in stock or even carried at yye which is why I haven’t mentioned them. > > Accel is also over his price point My bad, didn’t read all the posts. Anyway there’s no rule against mentioning yo-yos not in stock at YYE. Most of the best yo-yos are not in stock here. You just can’t mention specific websites. I forgot the Accel sells at $125 normally. I picked it up on sale. Anyway he could buy mine if he wanted. For stuff in stock at YYE priced below $120, it’s relatively slim pickings. I’d definitely suggest the Aftershock if OP is looking to buy here. Amplitude is a decent yo-yo but it’s biggest weaknesses are probably spin time and stability which is why I didn’t mention it. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/29 "2014-09-04T01:26:26Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > Get a Leviathan 5 IMO. They’re more like $150 but it has fantastic stability and spin times. I can get 10 minutes pretty easily. They are semi-hard to find but I can assist you if you wish just PM me. > > I would also recommend any of Auldey’s Marcus Koh sigs. The Ares Star, Magnum, and Equilibrium are incredibly smooth with great stability and the best spin times I’ve found outside of bi-metals. The Equilibrium is the best of the bunch but also the most expensive at $160, though if you buy from MK directly on facebook it might be less. Ares Star and Magnum are more like $138 and $128 so should be close to your budget. > > Only yo-yo I have within your $120 budget that meets your criteria is the Adegle Accel. Its stability is extremely good as a bi-metal and it’s easy to get spin times surpassing 10.5 minutes. It’s not quite as smooth as Japanese bi-metals but about as smooth as typical CLYW throws. It’s a very underrated yo-yo given its low price tag. > > Feel free to message me if you have any questions. t Thanks so much! ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/30 "2014-09-13T19:04:24Z")
So is the one drop t1 stable??? ---
**Author:** ![Mazdarx7FD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mazdarx7fd/32/43086_2.png) [@Mazdarx7FD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mazdarx7FD)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/31 "2014-09-15T14:23:49Z")
There is a yoyo under that price that has the most stability and sleep time. The yoyofactory Aviator. This thing is a monster at stability and sleep time. You can also pull of fast tricks like Luis Enrique. I consider it the best yyf having tried H.O.T, Shutter, supernova, and superstar. ---
**Author:** ![Nikolai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@Nikolai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nikolai)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/32 "2014-09-15T18:33:12Z")
Honestly just buy the T1. It’s sounds like you want it really bad so just buy it. I’m sure you won’t be disappointed ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/33 "2014-09-17T01:49:32Z")
Ok. I will 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/34 "2014-09-19T22:53:37Z")
So I’m planning to use the one drop t1 for a competition. How many should I get as backups? ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/35 "2014-09-19T23:01:20Z")
> [@nightshadow](#): > > So I’m planning to use the one drop t1 for a competition. How many should I get as backups? have you even got one ---
**Author:** ![Nikolai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@Nikolai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nikolai)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/36 "2014-09-19T23:17:46Z")
> [@nightshadow](#): > > So I’m planning to use the one drop t1 for a competition. How many should I get as backups? Honestly, none for now until you can distinguish subtle differences when doing your routine with different yoyos unless you really want more than one T1; I would suggest you spend money on different yoyos to see if there is one that you like more before buying dupes ---
**Author:** ![Moise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moise/32/955_2.png) [@Moise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Moise)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/37 "2014-09-19T23:34:00Z")
> [@Nikolai](#): > > Honestly, none for now until you can distinguish subtle differences when doing your routine with different yoyos unless you really want more than one T1; I would suggest you spend money on different yoyos to see if there is one that you like more before buying dupes I second this^^^. Buying dupes is something you will definitely regret If you aren’t 100% sure Its what you want. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/38 "2014-09-20T01:00:24Z")
Yeah. That’s true. Thanks. But I think I’ll just get one for now. From what I heard of the style of play the t1 is, it’s exactly what I want. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906.md?page=1)