# Looking for good high end yoyo **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 25, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906 "2014-08-25T23:45:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/1 "2014-08-25T23:45:12Z")
So I am looking for a high end yoyo with good stability and sleep time. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![YOLOcop\_57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yolocop_57/32/1504_2.png) [@YOLOcop\_57](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOLOcop_57)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/2 "2014-08-25T23:58:44Z")
yyf Superstar most if not all CLYW yoyos Turning Point stuff OD Code-1, Code-2 ---
**Author:** ![Moise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moise/32/955_2.png) [@Moise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Moise)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/3 "2014-08-26T00:01:56Z")
YYF genesis is the most rock-steady heavyballer I can think of. I can do a cold fusion with it starting from a snap start and finish with a bind. I own 60+ metals and I think its safe to say the genesis is the most stable I’ve tried. ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/4 "2014-08-26T00:06:50Z")
If your willing to spend $200+, you should get a YoYoRecreation Draupnir. Best on the market. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/5 "2014-08-26T00:38:37Z")
price range would help significantly on this ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/6 "2014-08-26T01:03:05Z")
My price range is about $120. Sorry, I should have specified earlier ---
**Author:** ![yoyobrandon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyobrandon/32/1407_2.png) [@yoyobrandon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyobrandon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/7 "2014-08-26T12:58:53Z")
I would check out some square wheel throws. I have a Rockefeller, and I love it! ---
**Author:** ![Moise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moise/32/955_2.png) [@Moise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Moise)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/8 "2014-08-26T15:11:50Z")
If you don’t mind a heavy throw, I would say get a yyf superstar. Its definitely in my top 3, it’s very stable, somewhat fast on the string, and beautiful to look at. If you don’t care for hubstacks, you can pick a regular superstar up for $80 and at the moment, get a FREE protostar! As most of you can agree, the protostar is an outstanding throw that outperforms more than a few high end metals on the market. The hubstacked superstar weighs a bit more, but performs almost as well as the non-hubstacked. I have 3 and have to say it’s definitely worth the money. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/9 "2014-08-27T11:51:06Z")
Woah. That’s awesome! I will have to check that out. But just one thing, I saw that the superstar was pretty wide, does the width make it hard to catch tricks wrist mount? ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/10 "2014-08-27T14:08:22Z")
It’s mostly fine with those tricks After seeing your price range I’d also consider: Valor Gradient Aftershock Irony Jp 2k13 Shu-Ta Summit Any of these will blow you away in performance and you won’t be disappointed. I’d just go for the one that looks best to you. Also on the superstar I’d avoid the hubstacked version as it’s pretty outdated in design these days. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/11 "2014-08-27T14:26:36Z")
Straight up the Valor is the best yoyo I’ve tried $120 and under. Irony JP 2K13 and the Summit are close up there as well ---
**Author:** ![Moise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moise/32/955_2.png) [@Moise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Moise)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/12 "2014-08-28T01:08:35Z")
Also on the superstar I’d avoid the hubstacked version as it’s pretty outdated in design these days. [/quote] I own the current superstar aswell as the old version. I would not go as far as to say it’s outdated, as they play fairly similarly. although a solid reason to avoid the hubstacked superstar is that the new superstar is not only $20 cheaper, but comes with a free protostar. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/13 "2014-08-28T23:56:27Z")
Nice. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/14 "2014-08-28T23:57:09Z")
What about the L5? ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/15 "2014-08-29T00:43:36Z")
Shutter ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/16 "2014-08-29T19:34:37Z")
> [@nightshadow](#): > > What about the L5? If only ‘stability and sleep time’ is in concern then. I feel this thing plays in between a clyw and a turning point. Every movement is gentle, floaty and deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/17 "2014-08-31T02:28:43Z")
Cool! Thanks so much guys! ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/18 "2014-09-02T15:04:29Z")
Get a Leviathan 5 IMO. They’re more like $150 but it has fantastic stability and spin times. I can get 10 minutes pretty easily. They are semi-hard to find but I can assist you if you wish just PM me. I would also recommend any of Auldey’s Marcus Koh sigs. The Ares Star, Magnum, and Equilibrium are incredibly smooth with great stability and the best spin times I’ve found outside of bi-metals. The Equilibrium is the best of the bunch but also the most expensive at $160, though if you buy from MK directly on facebook it might be less. Ares Star and Magnum are more like $138 and $128 so should be close to your budget. Only yo-yo I have within your $120 budget that meets your criteria is the Adegle Accel. Its stability is extremely good as a bi-metal and it’s easy to get spin times surpassing 10.5 minutes. It’s not quite as smooth as Japanese bi-metals but about as smooth as typical CLYW throws. It’s a very underrated yo-yo given its low price tag. Feel free to message me if you have any questions. ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/19 "2014-09-02T17:16:12Z")
My Irony JPX just spun 10m12s with a ctx bearing. ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906/20 "2014-09-02T17:56:26Z")
> [@kadabrium](#): > > My Irony JPX just spun 10m12s with a ctx bearing. If the bearing is freshly cleaned that’s certainly possible. Spin times depend on a lot of factors besides the yo-yo: the bearing quality, the cleanliness of the bearing, your arm strength, the quality of your throw, the string length, and your ability to pinch/twist the string for balancing purposes. I try to keep these factors as constant as possible so I have a meaningful reference frame. For that reference frame, bi-metals usually break 10 minutes, sometimes 10.5, occasionally 11, and non bi-metals usually hit 6 - 9 minutes depending on their weight distribution. That’s why for me the Leviathan 5 has such impressive spin times. It’s a small yo-yo and only 65g but it has ridiculous rim weight. Someone else may well get 12 minutes with one. It’s possible I could. I generally only do 1-2 throws to determine spin times to avoid the effect of declination in bearing performance. Also it’s just really boring to time 10 minute throws over and over… [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/looking-for-good-high-end-yoyo/68906.md?page=2)