# LF: Non-hubstack version Confusion \*FOUND\*PLEASE CLOSE\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Buy / Sell / Trade\ **Created:** [March 15, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959 "2023-03-15T22:15:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/1 "2023-03-15T22:15:10Z")
Been wanting a Confusion, but trying to trim some weight off the version currently available. Is anyone looking to part with their non-hubstack version? Edit: Seeing now that what I wrote above is a little confusing. By “trim some weight off” I meant because the OG Confusion is 6061 it weighs a little less, so I’m looking for one instead of just buying a newer one off YYE. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/2 "2023-03-16T07:37:51Z")
Uh…. That sounds a little Confusing? What are you planning on ‘doing’? And ‘now’ will you go about doing it? PS… you can trust me on this\> I know a little about ‘doing things to yo-yos’. Can you provide a little more detail? ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/3 "2023-03-16T10:20:55Z")
I think that if you don’t install hubstacks the new one is basically the same weight. Edit: the hubstacks are worth it though. Super fun feature. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/4 "2023-03-16T13:05:22Z")
Oo you’re right that did sound confusing. I just meant I’m looking for the OG Confusion because it’s 4-5grams lighter than the one you can readily get now. I don’t plan on literally shaving off some weight. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/5 "2023-03-16T13:07:22Z")
Yeah I’ve been debating if the 4ish gram difference would even be noticeable. I take it you don’t really notice any weight difference. ---
**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/6 "2023-03-16T13:26:14Z")
> [@GnarlyCharlie](#): > > Yeah I’ve been debating if the 4ish gram difference would even be noticeable. I have a brass dome One Drop side effect that is about 5 grams heavier than an ultralight. When you put it on a Deep State it is very noticeable. That said I am much more forgiving of weight since the new butterfly AL came out. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/7 "2023-03-17T19:57:12Z")
Giving this a little mid-day bump. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/8 "2023-03-18T20:30:38Z")
Just a wee Saturday afternoon bump. ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/9 "2023-03-19T04:46:57Z")
I have a purple one with 3 small marks on it ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/10 "2023-03-19T04:58:45Z")
Oh I’ve never seen a purple one before. Can you PM me pics? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/11 "2023-03-19T14:00:50Z")
Purple is first run from 2018 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/system/32/8054_2.png) [@system](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-non-hubstack-version-confusion-found-please-close/371959/12 "2023-04-18T14:00:53Z")
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