# LF: Grail, paying cash.

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-grail-paying-cash/81781
**Category:** Buy / Sell / Trade
**Created:** [September 6, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-grail-paying-cash/81781 "2016-09-06T19:28:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author: ![StillinKansasCity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/stillinkansascity/32/848_2.png) [@StillinKansasCity](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/StillinKansasCity)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-grail-paying-cash/81781/1 "2016-09-06T19:28:13Z")

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I’d like a Grail. I’d like to pay you cash for yours.

Yoyos are worth what people will pay. Nothing more. All yoyos mint with acceptable machine marks (wooden yoyos). Cash offers preferred, trades accepted.

-Tom Kuhn No Jive 3-in-1 (BC era) - blue gloss - $20

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/f/3/2f33a4359b62f6847a565624e072213fee2dcc8c.jpeg)  
-BC Apollo - striped finish - $25  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/9/9/d99b8ff1eb9ce6d8adbf811907b0cf3ddd7c07d7.jpeg)  
-BC Atlas - white - $15  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/4/3/e43cb611e83cdba526661d1504a883deda48ef8d.jpeg)  
-BC Black Bird - black/red (a few spots of missing paint as visible in picture) - $15  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/d/8/fd84d73b93be9fd287963afbdb8ef2bb98ef369c.jpeg)

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### Author: ![dannyfisher16257](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@dannyfisher16257](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dannyfisher16257)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-grail-paying-cash/81781/25 "2016-12-25T21:19:11Z")

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I’ve never heard of the Apollo. Is it fixed axle, and how does it play compared to the No-Jive?

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### Author: ![SML](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sml/32/221290_2.png) [@SML](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SML)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-grail-paying-cash/81781/26 "2016-12-28T21:45:36Z")

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Danny,

The Apollo, Atlas, and Blackbird are all fixed axle (and not take-apart). They were manufactured by BC/What’s Next, which is the same company that makes the contemporary No Jive.

A lot of people feel that the laminated woods (like the Apollo) are better balanced than normal woods. I think they’re heavier, as well.

I would say that the Apollo plays comparably to the No Jive. Maybe better. Just have a paperclip ready to fish out knots!

(Source: I have a few Apollos and a Butterfly Blackbird.)

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### Author: ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/system/32/8054_2.png) [@system](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/lf-grail-paying-cash/81781/28 "2018-07-16T09:59:31Z")

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