# Kuntosh: onedrop, anti-yo, or somewhere inbetween?

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [April 7, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016 "2019-04-07T20:16:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![WickerWraith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wickerwraith/32/60872_2.png) [@WickerWraith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WickerWraith)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/1 "2019-04-07T20:16:57Z")

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I’ve been pondering this for awhile, so I wanted to ask the question to the rest of the community!  
Do you think the kuntosh and kuntosh QV are anti-yo machined by onedrop, anti-yo and onedrop collabs, or onedrop yoyos? Maybe gimme a percent that you think represents how much each company had their hand in the design, and state your reasons as to why you think what you think! Thanks, and happy posting!

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**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/2 "2019-04-07T21:02:34Z")

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I’d say OG Kuntosh more anti yo. QV more One Drop. BUT without the OG there wouldn’t be a QV.

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**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/3 "2019-04-07T23:02:56Z")

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Here is my best representation of it using current events.

Heath = Antiyo  
codinghorror = Onedrop

Seeing how I love all 4 for their value to the community, this is to be taken as nothing but a compliment to the highest extent.

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**Author:** ![WickerWraith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wickerwraith/32/60872_2.png) [@WickerWraith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WickerWraith)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/4 "2019-04-07T23:45:28Z")

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that would make a lot of sense, actually! the folks at onedrop wanted to get the yoyo into the hands of the public, so they asked the dude at antiyo (forget his name) if they can do the run of his yoyo, maybe with a few small tweaks to bring it up to date! don’t know if it’s actually true or not, but that would fit _perfectly_ into the gap in information that i have.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/5 "2019-04-07T23:58:28Z")

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> [@WickerWraith](#):
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> dude at antiyo

Sonny, I believe.

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**Author:** ![WickerWraith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wickerwraith/32/60872_2.png) [@WickerWraith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WickerWraith)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/6 "2019-04-07T23:59:34Z")

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that’s the one. sonny patrick.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/7 "2019-04-08T01:24:04Z")

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I keep waiting for _someone_ to post a review comparison between the Kuntosh and the QV…

_cough_ @smileypants707

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**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/8 "2019-04-08T01:30:54Z")

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@yomartyo already did one on “Let’s talk yoyo”!

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/4/a/44afda3b38dfcce5a33e32970a8f623db4e92330.jpeg "One Drop Kuntosh/Kuntosh 5000QV Review") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC01P-uptp4)

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/9 "2019-04-08T01:52:36Z")

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@codinghorror this ☝ review is pretty much as good as it can get. I’m really awkward on film…

But it’s coming, I promise. I have literally filmed this review 6 times, and I have not been pleased with any of them. I’ll shoot a winner eventually

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/10 "2019-04-08T01:53:21Z")

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A written review would also work, wouldn’t it? Doesn’t _have_ to be video?

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/11 "2019-04-08T01:54:34Z")

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Challenge accepted. 💪🏻

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/12 "2019-04-08T04:04:53Z")

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I wrote up my comparison thoughts here somewhere too, FWIW…

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/13 "2019-04-08T05:32:14Z")

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Where? Can you find it? Search your posts and see.

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**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/14 "2019-04-08T14:17:30Z")

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They are “Designed by Sonny Patrick” machined by One Drop. So more of a collab between Sonny and OneDrop. Anti-Yo was Kiya Babzani and Sonny Patrick. So since Kiya and Sonny together were not involved with the Kuntosh, only Sonny I don’t feel it could be called a AntiYo, or AntiYo x One Drop, hence why the box says “Designed by Sonny Patrick”.

I hope we see more “Designed by Sonny Patrick” from One Drop, Sonny is such a great yoyo designer.

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**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/15 "2019-04-08T14:20:39Z")

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For those interested, here are the original AntiYo Kuntosh. From what I’ve seen there are 2 of the red/gold, and two of the blue/gold, making up the 10 that are out there.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/3/7/c37e3fe1746db078b194bf72bb52d77f1acf641c.png)

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 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/d/b/8db126ff7d04befc94539367eff75e89ba2fd93e.png)

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/16 "2019-04-08T15:42:24Z")

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Here it is!

> [@Kuntosh5000qv](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh5000qv/299036/2):
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> They are both great! Performance wise, the 5000qv is better, but enjoyment wise, it’s personal preference. I tend to play the original one more. It’s a bit more chill, but I’m always amazed by the 5000qv when I pick it up. I also like and use the IGR that the OG has; though you can do thumb grinds on the 5000qv, using the big flat lip. I’d say the 5000qv is slightly more capable at Fingerspins. You can do them on either, but neither is exceptional for them. The blast finish on the 5000qv is…

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/17 "2019-04-08T23:12:41Z")

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_ermahgerrrrrd_ those are the originals! Awesome!

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/18 "2019-04-08T23:15:00Z")

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> [@AaronW](#):
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> They are “Designed by Sonny Patrick” machined by One Drop. So more of a collab between Sonny and OneDrop.

This is the correct answer. Kuntosh has its roots in Anti-Yo, but it isn’t an Anti-Yo release. It’s a Sonny/OneDrop colab like AaronW says.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/19 "2019-04-09T01:11:43Z")

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is it just me or does the original look _exactly_ like the regular OD kuntosh?

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kuntosh-onedrop-anti-yo-or-somewhere-inbetween/301016/20 "2019-04-09T02:27:09Z")

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They are identical

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