# Kickflip on a bind yoyo

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [November 12, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138 "2013-11-12T02:44:05Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/1 "2013-11-12T02:44:05Z")

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I was watching mickeys at the 2012 worlds on YouTube and noticed he did a kickflip.  
How do you do that?

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/2 "2013-11-12T03:08:37Z")

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bind-\>stall-\>kickflip-\>regen

which part seems like it shouldn’t work on an unresponsive yo-yo?

i did a couple in this episode of fixed friday, which was about fixed axle concepts applied to ball bearing yo-yo’s.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/d/a/eda925c0904d543b5b8d1706378496992367b36f.jpeg "YOYONEWS.COM: Fixed Friday 38 - Applying Fixed Concepts to Bearing Yo-Yo's") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLEhIhrT1iQ)

(also ends with a trick called ‘hardflip’, which is a kind of kickflip that happens outside of a stall.)

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/3 "2013-11-12T03:38:47Z")

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> [@ed](#):
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> bind-\>stall-\>kickflip-\>regen
> 
> which part seems like it shouldn’t work on an unresponsive yo-yo?
> 
> i did a couple in this episode of fixed friday, which was about fixed axle concepts applied to ball bearing yo-yo’s.  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLEhIhrT1iQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLEhIhrT1iQ)
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> (also ends with a trick called ‘hardflip’, which is a kind of kickflip that happens outside of a stall.)

… Thats the second best yoyo video ive ever seen. Thank you for being awesome ed!

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/4 "2013-11-12T05:35:40Z")

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Y’know, the cool thing is you can start small, which is what I’mma do. I can do a one-handed trapeze stall on a fixie and never thought of adding it to a sky bind. Then I saw it in that video and thought, “OK, I can at LEAST start there and see where it goes.” :wink:

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/5 "2013-11-12T06:44:59Z")

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Is there a tutorial on how to do kick flipss on a ball bearing ?  
I can only find fixed axle 😕

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/6 "2013-11-12T06:51:50Z")

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It’s exactly the same other than binding into the stall.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/7 "2013-11-12T07:57:14Z")

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Im having trouble with rotating the yoyo

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/8 "2013-11-12T13:52:38Z")

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> [@Raigo](#):
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> Im having trouble with rotating the yoyo

Is your string just slipping out? With a low-wall yoyo it might be trickier to get’r going, but I just tried it with a low-wall yoyo and it wasn’t TOOooo different. Might have to make sure there’s not too much string length or something. Put your hands a bit closer together so that the string forms more of a ‘cradle’…?

Can’t say for sure. Worked for me first try.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/9 "2013-11-13T05:10:25Z")

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Noobie question, but I really don’t think I’m doing the stall correctly,  
Is there a tutorial of it somewhere?

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/10 "2013-11-13T05:41:41Z")

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> [@Raigo](#):
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> Noobie question, but I really don’t think I’m doing the stall correctly,  
> Is there a tutorial of it somewhere?

Not sure. I just did a basic backspin bind (ye standard breakaway bind) and then once the bind kicked in, I quickly moved my NTH in place for the stall. If you’re not doing a bind first, you’re just landing a trapeze, not a stall.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/11 "2013-11-14T13:08:15Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/a/a/9aa88328b4d6d91b3df1e348c16005482ac10631.webp "how to stall") ](https://vimeo.com/7924252)

i did one a few years back.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/12 "2013-11-14T18:26:22Z")

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Are you talking about mickey’s winning freestyle at worlds? Becuse i’ve watched that a hundred times and i haven’t seen a kickflip.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/13 "2013-11-14T20:18:09Z")

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I assume you guys are talking about kick flip suicide. SladeRiggs made a clip about a year or so back.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/14 "2013-11-15T04:28:58Z")

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Can someone post links for tutorials for it?

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/15 "2013-11-15T05:05:10Z")

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oh man, it would be awesome if mickey did a kickflip! i don’t think he has, so maybe you’re thinking of a different trick in his freestyle, but here’s a couple looks at it on fixed

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/a/6/5a6f2ca254fd959966193fd03118aaed1b1fc825.jpeg "Fixed Friday: Flip Tricks") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSM9Q173rLE)

> **[Fixed Friday: Flip Tricks](https://yoyonews.com/2013/09/27/fixed-friday-flip-tricks/)**
>
> Welcome to your weekly dose of fixomania! Let’s talk about flippin’ out. Flip tricks are a fairly new element, borne out of the realization that a stalled yo-yo need not stay in a singl…

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/f/8/9f870fe0ae461760a330d0e70fa157938bc36f91.jpeg "Fixed Friday: Trapeze Stall to Trapeze Bro Stall, Kickflip Suicide to Thumb Mount") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxoXfKdFQM)

[http://vimeo.com/41572295](http://vimeo.com/41572295)

doing it on unresponsive is pretty much the same as responsive, you just gotta bind into it. alexis jv has a great unresponsive stall combo halfway through this video:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/6/f/86f20f2517d4e56b2027104f1f8ae978c5232796.jpeg "Alexis JV: A C O") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kx08OCerrg)

zach has an unresponsive stall trick in his nats freestyle, too.

you’ll probably have to swing a little harder to flip it, too, 'cause bearing yoyos are generally heavier and wider. hope this helps! let me know if you have specific questions?..

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/16 "2013-11-16T00:27:52Z")

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1:25-1:27

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Can you explain “binding into it”?

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/kickflip-on-a-bind-yoyo/61138/17 "2013-11-16T00:38:15Z")

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ohh, yeah. that’s a 3D eli hop… i don’t think there are any tutorials for it, but it’s been in a bunch of freestyles. hopefully somebody else will be able to chime in with a good alternate angle or somethin’ for it. but basically what you do is…

1. throw a trapeze
2. pop the yo-yo off the string going FORWARD (away from your body.) this is pretty counterintuitive, because the string pushes against the sides of the yo-yo and you probably aren’t used to the motion, but with a little practice you should be able to pop it up and forward at least a foot or so
3. pull the yo-yo back and land it on the string. that’s the hard part, i guess

it’s a pretty simple trick, but easier said than done i’m afraid. hopefully someone will be able to provide alternate video examples.

p.s. if you still want to learn to do unresponsive kickflips, what we mean by “binding into it” is binding a slow-spinning yo-yo and landing it on the string in a stall
