# John Ando (YYF) ProtoStar - First Impression Review

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\
**Created:** [May 18, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532 "2010-05-18T03:30:54Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/1 "2010-05-18T03:30:54Z")

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I just got my ProtoStar today in the mail.  
Here’s a brief quick review on what it’s like straight out of the box.

Note that I am not a very advanced yo-yoer. This is a review based on the opinions and experiences of a lower level yo-yoer.

(I bought from YoYoExpert)

THE PROTOSTAR - $34.99 ($5 shipping)

In The Box …

- the ProtoStar (of course)
- a green string (not sure if it’s 50/50 or full Polyester. It seems 100% Polyester.)
- a small trick list
- a YoYoExpert check list for different yo-yo tricks
- YoYoExpert sticker
- two YoYoExpert trading cards of professional yo-yoers
- bubble wrap!
- receipt

Yo-Yo Specs

(from the YoYoExpert shop)  
Diameter: 55.94 mm / 2.20 inches  
Width: 43.15 mm / 1.69 inches  
Gap Width: 4.43 mm / .17 inches  
Response System: Standard Sized K-Pad  
Weight: 67.0 grams  
Bearing Size: Center Trac Bearing by CBC

First Throw

The ProtoStar feels great in the hand. It has a surprisingly wide gap, and even better, ARROWS on the side of the yo-yo to prevent overtightening! This was one of the best aspects of the yo-yo since I already broke two previous yo-yos from overtightening them.

I gave a weak throw to begin with. The results were surprising. The ProtoStar was VERY balanced and smooth. I literally jumped where I was standing. The center trac bearing worked very well in keeping the yo-yo together.

I have not yet timed how long a good sleeper on a ProtoStar is, but I have heard it has been around upwards 3 minutes of sleep time? (a straight sleeper, no tricks)

Problems/Questions

I’ve heard complaints about the sound of the ProtoStar because of its center trac bearing.  
Bear with me here, since I’ve only had this yo-yo for a day. As of right now, the sound has not bothered me as much. The center trac bearing is easily heard spinning around but it is not a very piercing sound nor very loud. However, I do find that sometimes when I throw a hard sleeper it tends to get loud at times.

Anything weird about the ProtoStar yet?  
One thing I’ve noticed as I played with my ProtoStar is that it pulsates … and with its red color I find this particularly enjoyable to watch. I have seen this happen when it sleeps. By pulsate, I mean that when it is in sleep, every second or so there is a vibration that makes it look like a pulse. Heck, I UFO’d to fix my string and it was interesting to see it pulsate in UFO mode. This may or may not affect some yo-yoers who are bothered by heavy vibrations in the string.

How’s the response system?  
The ProtoStar is a fully UNRESPONSIVE yo-yo. I have not once had it return back to my hand by any other means besides binding. As a beginner yo-yo jumping from a simple Peter Fish Luminator to a ProtoStar, this was definitely a bit difficult to bind at some times. However, through problems and mistakes came improvement. Though frustrating at times, binding with the ProtoStar is quite a fun learning experience. However, it is definitely recommended to know how to bind quite well before getting a ProtoStar (unless you’re willing to learn form it).

How are the string tricks?  
Bear with me once again, as I am not a very advanced yo-yoer (just yet?). In my previous yo-yo, string tricks were incredibly hard due to weight issues, even with a nice butterfly shape. The wide gap of the ProtoStar is VERY helpful. I’ve been landing my trapezes and mounts with much more success with the ProtoStar.

The Conclusion  
I love my new ProtoStar. I have not put it down ever since I got it. This is a plastic yo-yo that definitely plays as well as a metal and really helps out in various string tricks.

I’ve noticed that many people have compared the ProtoStar with the Dark Magic.

Personally, I think the ProtoStar surpasses the Dark Magic on:

- COST: The ProtoStar is $5 cheaper!
- STRING TRICKS: The wider gap on the ProtoStar proves to be quite helpful
- LOOKS: The Dark Magic looks alright when spinning (with caps on) but the ProtoStar’s built in logos on the sides look like blurry awesomeness when it’s sleeping.
- BALANCE: I’ve had better balancing on the string with the ProtoStar. This may or may not be influenced by my improvement with trapezes from using the DM to the ProtoStar.
- DURABILITY: With a Dark Magic, you’ll be worried about dinging the metal on the outside. The best part about the ProtoStar is that it’s PLASTIC! Though it’s possible to chip/crack the outside of the ProtoStar, it won’t affect you as much as the gritty, dinged metal outside of the Dark Magic.

However, I feel the Dark Magic surpasses the ProtoStar in:

- BINDING: I don’t know if it’s just me, the ProtoStar’s center trac bearing, or the DM’s built in response system, but binding is just easier on the DM for me.
- GRINDING: I’ve heard many things about how awesome grinding is on the Dark Magic due to its layered inside. The ProtoStar is capable of grinding, but definitely not as well.

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Feel free to ask questions (though I probably will not be able to answer too many) or point out any mistakes/errors, as well as add your own experiences with the ProtoStar (such as grinds, advanced/master tricks, or more about the yo-yo itself). Each yo-yoer has a different experience with a yo-yo, so feel free to share your experiences!

Thanks for reading!

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**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/2 "2010-05-18T15:09:46Z")

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nice review.  
i have a protostar, and it make loud noises now, but not affect play.  
and about grinding, i think it’s only thing that this yoyo unable to do nicely.

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**Author:** ![hidas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hidas/32/486_2.png) [@hidas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hidas)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/3 "2010-05-18T16:49:50Z")

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I fully agree. The Protostar is my best yoyo.

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**Author:** ![pickle24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pickle24/32/483_2.png) [@pickle24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pickle24)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/4 "2010-05-18T17:04:08Z")

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needs pics

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**Author:** ![TheOrangeYoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theorangeyoyo/32/516_2.png) [@TheOrangeYoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheOrangeYoYo)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/5 "2010-05-18T19:54:18Z")

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ugh my protostar comes in the mail today i cant wait to get home from school in like an hour and get it!

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**Author:** ![swiftduststorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/swiftduststorm/32/1460_2.png) [@swiftduststorm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/swiftduststorm)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/6 "2014-01-15T23:29:03Z")

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my protostar is awesome but very loud. I also think that this needs a 10 ball bearing.

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**Author:** ![jbritter3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jbritter3/32/1265_2.png) [@jbritter3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbritter3)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/7 "2014-01-17T03:33:58Z")

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I’ve really liked the protostars I’ve played. I like it better than the rally.

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**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/john-ando-yyf-protostar-first-impression-review/14532/8 "2014-01-17T03:47:46Z")

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> [@Kristiawan](#):
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> nice review.  
> i have a protostar, and it make loud noises now, but not affect play.  
> and about grinding, i think it’s only thing that this yoyo unable to do nicely.

New Protostars are blasted and grind great!
