# Is this legal for freestyles?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [June 14, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070 "2013-06-14T21:22:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@Rosariyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosariyoyo)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/1 "2013-06-14T21:22:46Z")
I was goofing around with one of my YoYos this afternoon and I made a trick that I don’t know if its legal for competitions.
I could really use this trick for some pizzazz onstage
The trick is called “Hat Grind” and it’s just what it sounds like
I throw a front throw and let it sleep, then I take my hat off and pop the yoyo inside the hat. Then I grind it in the hat for a few seconds, pop it out again, and bind.
Would this be legal at a competition?
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### Author:  [@MattE](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattE)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/2 "2013-06-14T21:25:27Z")
I’m pretty sure it is. I’ve seen it before, by I believe Augie Fash in a contest. Definitely go for it!
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### Author:  [@Apollo2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apollo2)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/3 "2013-06-14T21:25:50Z")
> [@Rosariyoyo](#):
>
> I was goofing around with one of my YoYos this afternoon and I made a trick that I don’t know if its legal for competitions.
> I could really use this trick for some pizzazz onstage
>
> The trick is called “Hat Grind” and it’s just what it sounds like
> I throw a front throw and let it sleep, then I take my hat off and pop the yoyo inside the hat. Then I grind it in the hat for a few seconds, pop it out again, and bind.
>
> Would this be legal at a competition?
In AP for sure
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### Author:  [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Kangaroo)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/4 "2013-06-14T21:49:14Z")
You could have a whole AP based around juggling hats and a yoyo! Probably counterweight.
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### Author:  [@Schnayke](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Schnayke)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/5 "2013-06-14T21:53:10Z")
This was very popular to do, and you still see it often. Yes you can do it in a freestyle.
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### Author:  [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/6 "2013-06-15T02:18:52Z")
Yeah. It’s especially popular in 4a I’ve found.
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### Author:  [@redneckyoyoer3826](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/redneckyoyoer3826)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/7 "2013-06-15T19:52:55Z")
I would certainly think so. Can’t you do pretty much whatever you want?
BTW What contest are you going to do this trick at? I want look it up on YouTube! Unless you are doing it at WYYC…then I can watch it live!
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### Author:  [@nardcopter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nardcopter)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-legal-for-freestyles/55070/8 "2013-06-15T20:25:05Z")
Haha, nice trick. What I do is get it into a plastic whip and drop the yoyo into my hat, and tug the loose string up to bind. Try that! I think you might like it.