# Is this a fair trade?

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 16, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188 "2013-12-16T02:37:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/1 "2013-12-16T02:37:50Z")

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Hi, I’m trying to trade my very, very near mint OG Jasper Geode Avalanche. Someone offered me a mint silver Avant Garde and a near mint in box splash DV888. He says that AGs sell “religiously” at $70 and the DV888 “religiously” at $45 (says it’s a unique coloway, it’s just a mass-produced splash) on eBay. He says he’ll also add 20 strings and a bearing. Is this a fair trade?

Thanks,  
Ben

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**Author:** ![TTTYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tttyo/32/1280_2.png) [@TTTYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TTTYo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/2 "2013-12-16T02:40:07Z")

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I wouldn’t do it… But if you like the deal go for it.

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**Author:** ![yomagic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yomagic/32/131_2.png) [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/3 "2013-12-16T02:45:34Z")

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mehhh

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**Author:** ![yoyo2442](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo2442/32/986_2.png) [@yoyo2442](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo2442)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/4 "2013-12-16T02:48:29Z")

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CLYW Is HYPE

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**Author:** ![yomagic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yomagic/32/131_2.png) [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/5 "2013-12-16T02:52:46Z")

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With the dv888, I wouldn’t do that trade. It would have to be another yoyo but a dv888 isn’t all that good, play or value wise.

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**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/6 "2013-12-16T02:58:28Z")

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I just got offered a Stealth Ogre so I’m taking that. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/7 "2013-12-16T02:59:43Z")

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The dv888’s sell for $55 with special splash, $45 regular/solid. Once sold, they go for $25/30 on the after-market sale. I have a dv888, I’m not a super huge fan of it. I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m just saying it’s not an ideal fit for me. I am glad I have one, and I will play it from time to time to challenge myself. It has purpose in my collection, even if just as reference yoyo to compare other things with.

I won’t comment on the Avant Gard. I haven’t played it and it’s not an item of interest to me.

The “assurances” of the other end of the deal sound a bit dubious to me. I was gonna say “fulla crap” but I’m just trying to be nice. Oh wait, I kinda goofed up there.

My gut instincts say “no, this isn’t a fair trade”. But, hey, what do I know? You can snag another Ava for $120(perhaps). It’s ultimately your call.

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**Author:** ![saintrobyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saintrobyn/32/54_2.png) [@saintrobyn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/saintrobyn)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/8 "2013-12-16T03:23:09Z")

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This is in no way a slam against YYF. They do not trade well since they are a dime a dozen. There are so many produced in each and every batch that the trade value on YYF is lower than a CLYW or any of the other highly sought after boutique yoyos.

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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/9 "2013-12-16T03:28:38Z")

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The only DV888’s that come even close to $45 are the OG hardcoat ones that are becoming increasingly difficult to find

The original avant gardes barely go for $45 new on the BST. YYF had them at nationals for $30 new anyways. The AG2 might get you $60

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**Author:** ![YoYoJordan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojordan/32/123867_2.png) [@YoYoJordan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoJordan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/10 "2013-12-16T03:34:04Z")

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Would not take it ever. You can get more for your Avalanche.

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**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/11 "2013-12-16T04:21:15Z")

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> [@BenM36](#):
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> Hi, I’m trying to trade my very, very near mint OG Jasper Geode Avalanche. Someone offered me a mint silver Avant Garde and a near mint in box splash DV888. He says that AGs sell “religiously” at $70 and the DV888 “religiously” at $45 (says it’s a unique coloway, it’s just a mass-produced splash) on eBay. He says he’ll also add 20 strings and a bearing. Is this a fair trade?
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> Thanks,  
> Ben

Qualifying condition with “Near mint” and “very, very near mint” make realistic trade assessments almost impossible. If a yo-yo is blemished it’s difficult to assess a perceived value without clear pictures.

> [@saintrobyn](#):
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> This is in no way a slam against YYF. They do not trade well since they are a dime a dozen. There are so many produced in each and every batch that the trade value on YYF is lower than a CLYW or any of the other highly sought after boutique yoyos.

^^^Agreed with you in many instances saintrobyn. Somewhat older YYF yo-yos trade or sell for above (and sometimes well above) OG prices though.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/12 "2013-12-16T04:23:02Z")

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I would do a cartwheel in my living room if I was offered $70 for my AG1. And then another cartwheel if I owned a DV888 and someone offered me $45 for it.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-this-a-fair-trade/62188/13 "2013-12-16T04:28:57Z")

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[quote=“vegabomb,post:11,topic:62188”]  
I would agree with that, but those older YYF’s would be from when they would have been considered a boutique company. I am just referencing the newer stuff which is more mass produced. Products from the original Project Red Alert Line still command a good chunk of change.
