# Is there any other fireball/raider mod other than gap crank one?

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\
**Created:** [September 22, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-there-any-other-fireball-raider-mod-other-than-gap-crank-one/43082 "2012-09-22T15:02:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-there-any-other-fireball-raider-mod-other-than-gap-crank-one/43082/1 "2012-09-22T15:02:11Z")

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I wonder if there is another way to mod fireballs or raiders other than the classic plastic spacer+cranked gap. I’m not looking for mods that only make loops easier but impossible to sleep, that would be useless for me. I’m also not going to mod it to accept silicone/pad response too.

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-there-any-other-fireball-raider-mod-other-than-gap-crank-one/43082/2 "2012-09-22T15:32:30Z")

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Like what did you have in mind? What doesn’t it do well that needs fixing? They are primarily loopers so not much more to do. Pads will fit w/o any modifications. Just apply them over the starburst.

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**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-there-any-other-fireball-raider-mod-other-than-gap-crank-one/43082/3 "2012-09-22T15:37:04Z")

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I heard somebody purposely scratched the inner wall making it better for looping, haven’t thought about that kind of mod before, so maybe there are other ways that I possibly don’t know yet.

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**Author:** ![Rayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rayton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rayton)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-there-any-other-fireball-raider-mod-other-than-gap-crank-one/43082/4 "2012-09-23T15:25:05Z")

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I have heard of people who grind down the spacers on each side. You would have to be really exact though if you wanted to do this

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**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-there-any-other-fireball-raider-mod-other-than-gap-crank-one/43082/5 "2012-09-26T04:14:41Z")

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^Yeah, I mod my raiders that way actually 😛