# Is the YYF Legend Wing a proper fixed axle yoyo? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 12, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379 "2019-07-12T17:37:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/21 "2019-07-15T15:35:58Z")
Not really - if you’re doing the slower stall-based style it won’t melt polyester. If you’re throwing really hard sleepers it might, though. ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/22 "2019-07-15T15:41:40Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/d/7/7d7ec8afc00579c74a2ed084b45dd407cb13da96.jpeg) I got mine! From an actual store too! ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/23 "2019-07-15T19:10:39Z")
Also does anyone know what the composition of Buddha string is? (Polyester or 50/50) Would it be better for fixed axle than kitty fat? ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/24 "2019-07-15T19:29:36Z")
Buddah XL is fatter than Kitty fat, it’s still 100% polyester though. I haven’t tried either for fixie yet. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/25 "2019-07-16T03:02:16Z")
> [@MarkD](#): > > Not really - if you’re doing the slower stall-based style it won’t melt polyester. If you’re throwing really hard sleepers it might, though. I think this is flat out not true any more. I’ve thrown ton of wood axles on poly as hard as I could and never once got to melting point or even a singing smell. Maybe if you play them like loopers? :thinking: ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/26 "2019-07-16T03:03:55Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Maybe if you play them like loopers? :thinking: I said maybe because I haven’t actually managed to melt any without a lighter. I haven’t tried for more than 15 minutes though. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/27 "2019-07-16T03:04:31Z")
The truly funny thing is that I’ve broken 10+ cotton strings on wood axles. But not a single poly… ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/28 "2019-07-16T03:42:40Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > I think this is flat out not true any more. I’ve thrown ton of wood axles on poly as hard as I could and never once got to melting point This has been my experience for the most part as well. I think most modern fixies/strings are past this. The only fixie that has had a problem with poly for me lately has been my TMBR Sullivan; that thing melts poly and causes major snags for me. Plays beautifully with cotton though! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/29 "2019-07-16T03:56:29Z")
> [@JohnnyJ](#): > > TMBR Sullivan; that thing melts poly and causes major snags for me. Plays beautifully with cotton though! So weird. I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/30 "2019-07-16T04:31:20Z")
Yeah, i can’t figure it out. It’s the only one i have to use cotton with, but watcha gonna do, right? 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/31 "2019-07-16T15:41:46Z")
I threw my Harbinger for a few hours yesterday with Kitty string hard and had zero issues. Is this melt thing only an issue when it causes snagging? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/32 "2019-07-16T16:37:30Z")
I’ve melted kitty strings on a Duncan Butterfly throwing hard conservative throws back to back for 20 minutes. I like the feel of cotton on wood and change them out when the cord wrap texture starts going flat. With fixed axles and hard throwing strings don’t last like they do with ball bearings. Just change them often. I like the stock strings on the Legend Wing, they last a while if you’re not throwing straight gas on complex 1A tricks back to back. ---
**Author:** ![paxl13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/paxl13/32/39912_2.png) [@paxl13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/paxl13)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/33 "2019-07-16T19:31:27Z")
To be fair, I have trouble with white string either YYE regular or TYPE 10. In both cases, I have trouble getting the yoyo to be enough responsive… Do any of you have any tips on how to make the Wings more responsive, with black and red regular I have no problem but I presume it has to do with the dye in the cotton. I know for tops, different colors react quite differently, so I’m sure there is something like this at play… That said, everyone says Type 10 is the best and yet, I can’t seem to get it to respond properly. Especially after some stall regen where the yoyo is not spinning very fast… ( one example I have is left side of the body regen like in Makin’ da zine… ) What I found out that seem to help quie a bit is that I wind away from my body until I get a grip on the axle, then snap start the rest of the way. Alos if the string tension is jacked all the way, it works too but no fun to play that way… So. Any tips ? I’m throwing a Legend Wing with either type 6 or type 10 ( 2 size at YYE ) white string. Thanks guys ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/34 "2019-07-16T19:44:12Z")
YYE’s strings seem slick to me. I’m not much of a fan of them (the strings…I LOVE yye though! lol). Have you tried just regular pure cotton strings? ---
**Author:** ![paxl13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/paxl13/32/39912_2.png) [@paxl13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/paxl13)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/35 "2019-07-16T19:58:09Z")
Where can I get some ( other than making some myself with a drill ? ) ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/36 "2019-07-16T22:59:53Z")
Wood fixed axle and response is still a bit of a mystery to me, see > [@The mystery of wooden fixed axle response](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-mystery-of-wooden-fixed-axle-response/297507): > > My yo-yo history is kinda backward, here. I started with modern metal unresponsives and sorta intentionally ignored classic wood axles of all kinds. So am coming at this as someone who looks at, say … a modern metal slimine responsive such as the YYF Confusion … and sees that as the norm. That’s the kind of responsive yo-yo behavior I expect. [image] I’ve been experimenting with wood axles over the last two months, and I finally found some that I like! My favorite wood axle responsives are on … My best current guess based on what I’ve experienced in play is that you _need_ some string tension / twist (not a ton, just “some”) for things to work properly on wood fixed axles. But even then, sometimes… it just acts weird. I’d also add that I think it’s almost universally better when there is a formal response system of some kind (drilled holes, friction stickers, homemade cut starburst) even on wood fixed axles… ---
**Author:** ![paxl13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/paxl13/32/39912_2.png) [@paxl13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/paxl13)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379/37 "2019-07-17T11:42:44Z")
That linked post contains amazing info… I never have played much with unresponsive metal yoyos tho 🙂 I’m coming from a spintop background of all things 🙂 I absolutely love 0A b/c it feels like it’s impossible yet with muscle memory it’s easy to hit certain tricks consitatnly ( given that the damn yoyo respond 🙂 ) I’m awaiting on a TMBR Morrow this week, This one also being one without response system, I hope I won’t be disapointed, I was undecided between the hildy bros currier or a tmbr… so… Anyway, Keep spinnin’ paxl [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/is-the-yyf-legend-wing-a-proper-fixed-axle-yoyo/305379.md?page=1)