# irony VS chief

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/irony-vs-chief/45446>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [November 20, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/irony-vs-chief/45446 "2012-11-20T14:37:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Y0Y0SR2PR0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/y0y0sr2pr0/32/1137_2.png) [@Y0Y0SR2PR0](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Y0Y0SR2PR0)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/irony-vs-chief/45446/1 "2012-11-20T14:37:10Z")

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looking for fast, h/v type shaped, good for horizontal, wide gap,and good for grinds and in the 140 price range

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**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/irony-vs-chief/45446/2 "2012-11-20T15:26:52Z")

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just pick one of those two. they are both so good, you’ll be equally happy with either

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**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/irony-vs-chief/45446/3 "2012-11-20T15:29:34Z")

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Irony. So much better for horizontal, faster, stabler, smoother, better for grinding, overall IMO for everything you listed. Almost as good as my old Overdrive. And thats saying something. Cause the Overdrive is ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/irony-vs-chief/45446/4 "2012-11-20T15:31:03Z")

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Note

Get the Irony JP. Not the regular one. It’s much better! Way better actually! And it’s a better grinder than my Chiefs. And all my CLYWs. Makes horizontal palm grind binds easy. So powerful.

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**Author:** ![Eastfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eastfield/32/1158_2.png) [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/irony-vs-chief/45446/5 "2012-11-20T19:27:35Z")

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Since you say fast… Irony JP. The Chief is stable and have good spintimes, though is floaty and not on the fast side. The Irony is probably better there…