# IronArm: trick successes and other discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [October 22, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437 "2013-10-22T14:41:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/41 "2013-10-23T20:38:26Z")
Dang… Just came back from school and checked the schools. I’m gonna be honest I thought I had 1st in the bag, Phillips can do some fast eli hops! ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/42 "2013-10-23T23:02:23Z")
Who else did it at 7? I got 1:30 ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/43 "2013-10-23T23:19:57Z")
I did, less than 3 min ;D ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/44 "2013-10-23T23:50:54Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > If that’s how you’re doing it, then that’s what I’m doing, too! I think I can risk three before bind. Maybe. I might be better off doing 2. :wink: > > Check out Nick Gumlaw (MrDynamic): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0dPZF5-84A#t=12](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0dPZF5-84A#t=12) > > at the 0:10 mark. And I’ve seen him do more on a throw! Awesome.  And, if I could do that,  I would also tell people to call me MrDynamic :wink: ---
**Author:** ![midnightyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@midnightyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/midnightyoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/45 "2013-10-23T23:55:52Z")
we can just be happy that nick isn’t participating in this contest :wink: ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/46 "2013-10-24T01:05:56Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > Who else did it at 7? I got 1:30 That’s pretty crazy. I got 2:12, :-\ i was hoping for better, i had to do it later though. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/47 "2013-10-24T01:12:34Z")
Come on! Somebody can beat me (maybe not) at these Gyro Flops! I just know it. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/48 "2013-10-24T01:19:18Z")
I’m gonna start practicing kwijibos ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/49 "2013-10-24T01:28:34Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > I’m gonna start practicing kwijibos I worked on kwijibos today. I timed myself 5 times this mornnig on gyro flop, same every time, so I started on kwijibo. I’m not going to be as slow as I was on Magic Drop, but this will be another embarrassing time for me. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/50 "2013-10-24T01:47:30Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > Come on! Somebody can beat me (maybe not) at these Gyro Flops! I just know it. Send nick an invite so he can get 10 seconds and be done with it :wink: ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/51 "2013-10-24T02:24:45Z")
I was feeling pretty good about my flops (before this competition I was doing like… 1 at a time. :wink: ) but I still clocked 3:20. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/52 "2013-10-24T03:26:21Z")
My kwyjibos are fairly fastand consistent but its nothing compared to what andre can do just seeing his tut 😃 ---
**Author:** ![midnightyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@midnightyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/midnightyoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/53 "2013-10-24T09:44:54Z")
> [@yooldman](#): > > I worked on kwijibos today. I timed myself 5 times this mornnig on gyro flop, same every time, so I started on kwijibo. > > I’m not going to be as slow as I was on Magic Drop, but this will be another embarrassing time for me. it’s ok my time will be embarassing too. i haven’t really done most of the tricks that we have done so i am excited to start to do tricks that i actually know how to do. a(kwyjibo is not one of those tricks). ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/54 "2013-10-24T15:36:54Z")
I have updated the results on the original page. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/55 "2013-10-24T16:56:48Z")
Cold Fusion. Learned it last night (again; had forgotten it!) and was pondering how best to repeat it. Here are the 3 options I came up with: 1. As per the beginning of this tutorial: [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/3/c/33c56764f6bf2713482d42f3a0603dba07f116f2.jpeg "YoYo.tv Yo-Yo Tutorial: Cold Fusion") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M53zGAbmX98) Do a pass from the trapeze in order to make the double-or nothing. Now, this is the only source that seems to make trapeze a “part” of Cold Fusion, which I don’t agree with. I think you can start from D-o-N. But since Cold Fusion ends in a trapeze, it’s a useful technique! 1. Slack to D-o-N. From trapeze, pinch the segments in the NTH, rotate the resulting slack (the length that goes under the yoyo and to your TH) clockwise and insert TH forefinger into the loop. 2. Just throw the yoyo over the TH and around for the D-o-N – #2 looks great but I can’t do it reliably. #1 doesn’t seem hard, but I’m not convinced there’s a huge speed benefit. I think I’m going to stick to plain ol’ #3. How about you guys? ---
**Author:** ![midnightyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@midnightyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/midnightyoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/56 "2013-10-24T17:19:05Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > Cold Fusion. Learned it last night (again; had forgotten it!) and was pondering how best to repeat it. Here are the 3 options I came up with: > > 1. As per the beginning of this tutorial: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M53zGAbmX98](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M53zGAbmX98) > > Do a pass from the trapeze in order to make the double-or nothing. Now, this is the only source that seems to make trapeze a “part” of Cold Fusion, which I don’t agree with. I think you can start from D-o-N. But since Cold Fusion ends in a trapeze, it’s a useful technique! > > 1. Slack to D-o-N. From trapeze, pinch the segments in the NTH, rotate the resulting slack (the length that goes under the yoyo and to your TH) clockwise and insert TH forefinger into the loop. > > 2. Just throw the yoyo over the TH and around for the D-o-N > > – > > #2 looks great but I can’t do it reliably. #1 doesn’t seem hard, but I’m not convinced there’s a huge speed benefit. I think I’m going to stick to plain ol’ #3. > > How about you guys? i personally use method number 1 but method number 2 seems like the best. if you do black hops then that move should be a piece of cake. ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/57 "2013-10-24T17:29:17Z")
I’m using technique #3 as well. It’s much faster for me that way. ---
**Author:** ![midnightyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@midnightyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/midnightyoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/58 "2013-10-24T17:32:54Z")
i use technique 3 too (i accidentally said 1) ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/59 "2013-10-24T19:19:44Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > Cold Fusion. Learned it last night (again; had forgotten it!) and was pondering how best to repeat it. Here are the 3 options I came up with: > > 1. As per the beginning of this tutorial: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M53zGAbmX98](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M53zGAbmX98) > > Do a pass from the trapeze in order to make the double-or nothing. Now, this is the only source that seems to make trapeze a “part” of Cold Fusion, which I don’t agree with. I think you can start from D-o-N. But since Cold Fusion ends in a trapeze, it’s a useful technique! > > 1. Slack to D-o-N. From trapeze, pinch the segments in the NTH, rotate the resulting slack (the length that goes under the yoyo and to your TH) clockwise and insert TH forefinger into the loop. > > 2. Just throw the yoyo over the TH and around for the D-o-N > > – > > #2 looks great but I can’t do it reliably. #1 doesn’t seem hard, but I’m not convinced there’s a huge speed benefit. I think I’m going to stick to plain ol’ #3. > > How about you guys? you know tonight’s kwijibo, right? ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437/60 "2013-10-24T19:20:59Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > you know tonight’s kwijibo, right? Yup. But I have Kwyjibo down cold. :wink: I didn’t know Cold Fusion so I need to be pracicing that one. Thanks for double-checking, though! [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ironarm-trick-successes-and-other-discussion/60437.md?page=4)