# Iron whip trouble **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [January 4, 2013, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666 "2013-01-04T23:29:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![hemisphere97](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hemisphere97/32/1167_2.png) [@hemisphere97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hemisphere97)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/21 "2013-01-12T23:56:14Z")
Thanks guys, this really helped me. Surprisingly, even the thing about pouring water in a cup on your lap. I’ve got it like, 1 out of 3 times now. (Also, yes it does yoyomaniac123) ---
**Author:** ![FiveIronBrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fiveironbrian/32/451_2.png) [@FiveIronBrian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FiveIronBrian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/22 "2013-01-14T14:30:48Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > > [@FiveIronBrian](#): > > > > The NTH really helps get the momentum going. After the pop, throw the loop toward your TH side. > > Thanks, Brian! Just to be sure I’m understanding: you’re saying to literally grab the string with the NTH and throw it in such a way that it will give momentum to the whip? (in other words, you’re not just popping differently with the NTH, you are taking hold of it?) > > Have to give that a try. Sorry, I’m rarely on a computer on the weekends. You don’t have to grab the string; when your NTH is still in the loop after popping up the yoyo, just push/flick the loop downwards/towards your TH side to get it going around. You don’t have to do it, but it helps get the momentum going. It’s especially helpful when doing it on a responsive yoyo, because you hardly have to “pop” the yoyo at all. You can almost just flick the loop downward off the yoyo instead of popping. ---
**Author:** ![mabulrub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mabulrub](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mabulrub)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/23 "2013-01-15T22:51:08Z")
now i managed to make the whip and make it land on the yoyo. but i have one problem that i don’t know why it happens. i get to the trapeze but i don’t know how to say it, Inverted or flipped. but not the trapeze. Did it happen to any of you guys? and any tips to solve this?.. I tried a lot but i always get it like so …Frustrating ---
**Author:** ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/24 "2013-01-15T23:11:09Z")
> [@mabulrub](#): > > now i managed to make the whip and make it land on the yoyo. but i have one problem that i don’t know why it happens. i get to the trapeze but i don’t know how to say it, Inverted or flipped. but not the trapeze. > Did it happen to any of you guys? and any tips to solve this?.. I tried a lot but i always get it like so …Frustrating The loop in probably twisting or you are catching it backwards. I had that problem when I first learned jade whip. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/25 "2013-01-16T03:54:29Z")
> [@Jagmcool](#): > > > [@mabulrub](#): > > > > now i managed to make the whip and make it land on the yoyo. but i have one problem that i don’t know why it happens. i get to the trapeze but i don’t know how to say it, Inverted or flipped. but not the trapeze. > > Did it happen to any of you guys? and any tips to solve this?.. I tried a lot but i always get it like so …Frustrating > > The loop in probably twisting or you are catching it backwards. I had that problem when I first learned jade whip. Yup, exactly. I still have that problem with Jade Whip. I only land Jade Whip 50% of the time, and of that portion, 33% are in reverse. I suspect (but haven’t sat down to work it out to prove it) that you’re rotating the wrist TOO much and letting the string coming out of your hand on the small finger enter the gap first, instead of the length of string coming out of your hand on the pointer finger side. ---
**Author:** ![mabulrub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mabulrub](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mabulrub)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/26 "2013-01-16T14:55:33Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > > [@Jagmcool](#): > > > > > [@mabulrub](#): > > > > > > now i managed to make the whip and make it land on the yoyo. but i have one problem that i don’t know why it happens. i get to the trapeze but i don’t know how to say it, Inverted or flipped. but not the trapeze. > > > Did it happen to any of you guys? and any tips to solve this?.. I tried a lot but i always get it like so …Frustrating > > > > The loop in probably twisting or you are catching it backwards. I had that problem when I first learned jade whip. > > Yup, exactly. I still have that problem with Jade Whip. I only land Jade Whip 50% of the time, and of that portion, 33% are in reverse. > > I suspect (but haven’t sat down to work it out to prove it) that you’re rotating the wrist TOO much and letting the string coming out of your hand on the small finger enter the gap first, instead of the length of string coming out of your hand on the pointer finger side. I’ll try not to let it out of my little finger. I’m not sure but it could be a reason. I tried to check it through video recording but couldn’t. I used a phone camera and don’t have a player that slows down. But I didn’t understand the twisting part. You mean outside at the start of the motion or to inside at the end of it? ---
**Author:** ![hemisphere97](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hemisphere97/32/1167_2.png) [@hemisphere97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hemisphere97)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/27 "2013-01-19T00:14:15Z")
> [@Waylon](#): > > > [@Jagmcool](#): > > > > I have the motion down, the problem I have is that I can pop up and whip around fast enough to catch it > > Ah. Well then, it sounds like you just need to practice it lots. Iron Whip is one of those tricks that can take time to get down cold. If you can do Jade Whip, you’ll get Iron Whip. Just keep at it :wink: It’s Funny, I can’t do jade whip but I can now do iron whip. ---
**Author:** ![yoyomaniac123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyomaniac123/32/1240_2.png) [@yoyomaniac123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomaniac123)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/28 "2013-01-19T02:32:02Z")
try jade whip ---
**Author:** ![mabulrub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mabulrub](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mabulrub)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/29 "2013-01-19T10:07:08Z")
I, one time, left Yoyoing on a frustration from double or nothing and forgot about it for more than a year (Can you imagine!). Now i think that whips and slacks are going to do the same with me. I keep getting inverted or twisted Trapeze when doing Iron Whip, some times i get it right, but wrong ones are much more. i left it now and wanted to move on with learning as in Advanced part 2 to face laceration which does not sound easy as well. \>:( ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/30 "2013-01-19T14:26:26Z")
> [@mabulrub](#): > > I, one I i left it now and wanted to move on with learning as in Advanced part 2 to face laceration which does not sound easy as well. \>:( “fake” lacerations are just as flasy, are more fun, and are easier. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![killerat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f19dbf/32.png) [@killerat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/killerat)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/31 "2013-01-19T14:50:02Z")
prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrractice it heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelpsß ---
**Author:** ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/32 "2013-01-19T14:54:35Z")
Lacerations are actually really easy. It was one of the first things that I leaned. ---
**Author:** ![mabulrub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mabulrub](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mabulrub)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/33 "2013-01-20T11:48:27Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > > [@mabulrub](#): > > > > I, one I i left it now and wanted to move on with learning as in Advanced part 2 to face laceration which does not sound easy as well. \>:( > > “fake” lacerations are just as flasy, are more fun, and are easier. :wink: Agree. Laceration started to become easy. I got it down and practicing for perfection. I’m still frustrated at learning iron whip though and probably it is what made loose my patience and hit on laceration as well ;)… How long did it take you to get iron whip down? ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/34 "2013-01-20T22:05:46Z")
> [@mabulrub](#): > > > [@GregP](#): > > > > > [@mabulrub](#): > > > > > > I, one I i left it now and wanted to move on with learning as in Advanced part 2 to face laceration which does not sound easy as well. \>:( > > > > “fake” lacerations are just as flasy, are more fun, and are easier. :wink: > > Agree. Laceration started to become easy. I got it down and practicing for perfection. I’m still frustrated at learning iron whip though and probably it is what made loose my patience and hit on laceration as well ;)… How long did it take you to get iron whip down? I didn’t. I have too much fun doing Jade Whip, so I haven’t buckled down to learn Iron Whip yet. I can’t get any momentum off the “pop out” to do a whip. Kind people have given me pointers, but I haven’t given them a real honest try yet. ---
**Author:** ![yoyomaniac123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyomaniac123/32/1240_2.png) [@yoyomaniac123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomaniac123)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/35 "2013-01-21T02:09:11Z")
> [@killerat](#): > > prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrractice it heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelpsß ``` it sure does ``` ---
**Author:** ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/36 "2013-01-21T02:21:10Z")
So I just started 4A and I can do a whip (same motion as iron whip) just fine. I think my problem is that I don’t give it enough string to get to height of the pop. ---
**Author:** ![mabulrub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mabulrub](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mabulrub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/37 "2013-01-21T09:39:02Z")
Yesterday was MAGICAL, I could land Iron Whip with a success of (60 or 70)%, before i let the yoyo go off my hand i could land it successfully four times in a row on the same throw. The day before was a disaster. It either came out of a sudden, Or “it just crossed my mind” laceration helped me out. i was practicing the two together. exaggerating the movement of laceration probably made it clear how to get a good loop and land on the yoyo in the Iron Whip. I am happy and hope i do better today 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mabulrub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mabulrub](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mabulrub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/38 "2013-01-21T09:40:55Z")
Not to forget the kind support of you guys and the advises you provided where much of a help as well. Thank you all. Without you all yoyoing wouldn’t be that successful ---
**Author:** ![hemisphere97](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hemisphere97/32/1167_2.png) [@hemisphere97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hemisphere97)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/39 "2013-02-02T23:31:34Z")
> [@yoyomaniac123](#): > > hey, you have to use iron to whip it Umm… What? Anyway, I’ve just about mastered iron whip so thanks alot guys ---
**Author:** ![abby1371](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abby1371/32/1075_2.png) [@abby1371](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abby1371)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666/40 "2013-02-03T00:19:43Z")
Try using double iron whip first it’s a lot like hade whip but gets you that motion. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/iron-whip-trouble/47666.md?page=3)