# innovation

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [February 25, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206 "2012-02-25T17:39:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/21 "2012-02-27T07:50:53Z")

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> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> > [@sirnaq\_MN42](#):
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> > Actually a lot of girls think my yoyoing is cool so that innovation was already made by the gnarwhal
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> But I have a Gnarwhal and my wife still thinks I’m a dork when I throw. What’s your secret? 🙂

I have many yoyos, from cheap to expensive. My wife things I’m a dork. Whatever.

I’m gonna do sound at CalStates. There’s safety in numbers and high end sound!

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**Author:** ![sirnaq\_MN42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sirnaq_mn42/32/613_2.png) [@sirnaq\_MN42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sirnaq_MN42)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/22 "2012-02-27T08:25:31Z")

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> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> > [@sirnaq\_MN42](#):
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> > Actually a lot of girls think my yoyoing is cool so that innovation was already made by the gnarwhal
> 
> But I have a Gnarwhal and my wife still thinks I’m a dork when I throw. What’s your secret? 🙂

My secret is dressing like Mickey! ;D

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/23 "2012-02-27T08:43:31Z")

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> [@sirnaq\_MN42](#):
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> > [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> > > [@sirnaq\_MN42](#):
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> > > Actually a lot of girls think my yoyoing is cool so that innovation was already made by the gnarwhal
> > 
> > But I have a Gnarwhal and my wife still thinks I’m a dork when I throw. What’s your secret? 🙂
> 
> My secret is dressing like Mickey! ;D

Dude, did you at least get your name stitched onto the Mouse Ear hat?

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**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/24 "2012-02-27T10:40:47Z")

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> [@dynikus](#):
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> motorized yoyo  
> the hyper yo infinity already did it, but more companies will probably move in that direction eventually

I want one so bad so I can work on my tightest tricks without having to bind/throw all the time and just focus on string structures, but I can’t find one anywhere

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**Author:** ![tjz1021](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@tjz1021](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tjz1021)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/25 "2012-02-27T11:43:03Z")

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like yoyos made out of soild gold/sliver

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**Author:** ![sirnaq\_MN42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sirnaq_mn42/32/613_2.png) [@sirnaq\_MN42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sirnaq_MN42)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/26 "2012-02-27T12:27:45Z")

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> [@Studio42](#):
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> > [@sirnaq\_MN42](#):
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> > > [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> > > > [@sirnaq\_MN42](#):
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> > > > Actually a lot of girls think my yoyoing is cool so that innovation was already made by the gnarwhal
> > > 
> > > But I have a Gnarwhal and my wife still thinks I’m a dork when I throw. What’s your secret? 🙂
> > 
> > My secret is dressing like Mickey! ;D
> 
> Dude, did you at least get your name stitched onto the Mouse Ear hat?

No the gloves were surprisingly expensive so I had to skimp on the hat.

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**Author:** ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/27 "2012-02-27T15:05:06Z")

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> [@rizki\_yoist](#):
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> > [@Studio42](#):
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> > Self-correcting yoyos to make up for bad throws by properly leveling themselves, coupled with string-centering bearings and self-adjusting response pads to ensure every bind is perfect or every intentional tug brings the yoyo back to your hand.
> > 
> > Add in small air holes and a computer for use with strings with a metalic thread. The holes can be used by the computer to redirect air to guide the yoyo using a RF detector to help guide the yoyo into the string. An RF signal is pushed down the bearing into the string so senors in the rim can seek out the string.
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> Hmm, in my opinion, this is not a good idea. Auto-correct yoyo is like a console game which plays itself, or a racket which can hit the ball automatically… it’s just pointless.

Agreed, if anybody could yoyo it wouldn’t be worth doing.

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/28 "2012-02-27T16:23:25Z")

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> [@M.DeV1](#):
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> > [@rizki\_yoist](#):
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> > > [@Studio42](#):
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> > > Self-correcting yoyos to make up for bad throws by properly leveling themselves, coupled with string-centering bearings and self-adjusting response pads to ensure every bind is perfect or every intentional tug brings the yoyo back to your hand.
> > > 
> > > Add in small air holes and a computer for use with strings with a metalic thread. The holes can be used by the computer to redirect air to guide the yoyo using a RF detector to help guide the yoyo into the string. An RF signal is pushed down the bearing into the string so senors in the rim can seek out the string.
> > 
> > Hmm, in my opinion, this is not a good idea. Auto-correct yoyo is like a console game which plays itself, or a racket which can hit the ball automatically… it’s just pointless.
> 
> Agreed, if anybody could yoyo it wouldn’t be worth doing.

Case and point supporting that argument:  
YouTube.

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**Author:** ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/29 "2012-02-27T17:40:49Z")

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I’m working on the next big idea right now. just sketched up the design.

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**Author:** ![lordfungus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5e925/32.png) [@lordfungus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lordfungus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/30 "2012-02-27T18:06:04Z")

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> [@TMCertified](#):
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> Actually an invention that I think someone should make and I just don’t have the knowledge to do it, is create a computer program that can help you come up with new tricks. So you want this particular finish, how do you get to that and allow you to computer generate different types of combos with strings. So it comes up with a 100 different combinations then the program shows you how to do it, then you can practice it. That would be hot and very do-able.

I like this idea. Very useful as a learning tool as well.

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**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/31 "2012-02-27T21:18:47Z")

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> [@LordFungus](#):
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> > [@TMCertified](#):
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> > Actually an invention that I think someone should make and I just don’t have the knowledge to do it, is create a computer program that can help you come up with new tricks. So you want this particular finish, how do you get to that and allow you to computer generate different types of combos with strings. So it comes up with a 100 different combinations then the program shows you how to do it, then you can practice it. That would be hot and very do-able.
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> I like this idea. Very useful as a learning tool as well.

I am a computer programmer and have actually thought of this before. Putting the string knotting aside - which is actually complex math - the user interface is the thing that seems difficult to engineer.

How would you even start to describe the trick for the computer?

Drag-and-drop a one-and-a-half-mount? Would that be from a palette of possible mounts? Then what? How do I tell the computer what to do next? Do I drag the yoyo, or the string…or a move from a palette of options? Over which finger? …under which other one?

Pretty soon, it is better to just use the real-thing.

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**Author:** ![sirnaq\_MN42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sirnaq_mn42/32/613_2.png) [@sirnaq\_MN42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sirnaq_MN42)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/32 "2012-02-28T00:39:37Z")

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> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> > [@LordFungus](#):
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> > > [@TMCertified](#):
> > >
> > > Actually an invention that I think someone should make and I just don’t have the knowledge to do it, is create a computer program that can help you come up with new tricks. So you want this particular finish, how do you get to that and allow you to computer generate different types of combos with strings. So it comes up with a 100 different combinations then the program shows you how to do it, then you can practice it. That would be hot and very do-able.
> > 
> > I like this idea. Very useful as a learning tool as well.
> 
> I am a computer programmer and have actually thought of this before. Putting the string knotting aside - which is actually complex math - the user interface is the thing that seems difficult to engineer.
> 
> How would you even start to describe the trick for the computer?
> 
> Drag-and-drop a one-and-a-half-mount? Would that be from a palette of possible mounts? Then what? How do I tell the computer what to do next? Do I drag the yoyo, or the string…or a move from a palette of options? Over which finger? …under which other one?
> 
> Pretty soon, it is better to just use the real-thing.

Yeah I wouldn’t like this it would take the accomplishment out of making my own tricks and limit creativity because the computer can’t have all the possibilities.

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**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/33 "2012-02-28T17:27:02Z")

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> [@Marcius](#):
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> A yo-yo with a response system that would automatically retract and effectively disappear when the yo-yo is spinning very quickly. When the yo-yo’s spin slows down, the response system automatically comes back and you’d now be able to bind it. Similar to the Yomega Brain except it would play unresponsive throughout the throw but tricks can now last longer with less friction rubbing against the string.

Trust me, this only lead to new problems, especially when binding in high rpm.

> [@hadoq](#):
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> > [@dynikus](#):
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> > motorized yoyo  
> > the hyper yo infinity already did it, but more companies will probably move in that direction eventually
> 
> I want one so bad so I can work on my tightest tricks without having to bind/throw all the time and just focus on string structures, but I can’t find one anywhere

I saw one on a japan based store

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**Author:** ![mondo6611](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mondo6611/32/885_2.png) [@mondo6611](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mondo6611)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/34 "2012-02-28T17:40:46Z")

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I think someone should come up with a string to end all strings. Indestructible, never gets too tight or too loose, and smooth as butter. Imagine only having to buy one string

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**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/35 "2012-02-28T21:06:16Z")

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> [@mondo6611](#):
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> I think someone should come up with a string to end all strings. Indestructible, never gets too tight or too loose, and smooth as butter. Imagine only having to buy one string

Or hundreds, depending on the number of throws you own

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**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/36 "2012-02-29T04:40:11Z")

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> [@hadoq](#):
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> > [@dynikus](#):
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> > motorized yoyo  
> > the hyper yo infinity already did it, but more companies will probably move in that direction eventually
> 
> I want one so bad so I can work on my tightest tricks without having to bind/throw all the time and just focus on string structures, but I can’t find one anywhere

well you could look around for the hyper-yo infinity if you want. My friend bought one from hiroyuki suzuki a couple months ago.  
It’s honestly not very good though. Plays like a wobbling rock on a string, and it slows down to almost a stop if you have a couple layers of string in the gap. I’m not sure how many videos there are of it, but I think kimmitt made one a bit ago.  
There’s a lot of room for improvement, which is why I think some company will pick it up and make it actually playable.

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**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/37 "2012-03-06T07:55:46Z")

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yea I’ve been thinking about getting one and try to mod it

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**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/38 "2012-03-06T10:02:37Z")

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There has been some current innovative trends happening in the yoyo-world that fashions from the trick styles in competitions, the ways of marketing as well as the Yoyo itself.

Over in Japan, with Bandai once again trying to push the toy known as a yoyo into the general crowds of people, they have developed such throws like the Infinity but also the Hyper Cluster. Ben of Yoyofactory made a mention how its literally one of the most innovative yoyos out there today.

The reason it is currently something the most awesome out there is the variability of HOW it can play due to the change of body of said throw to something completely different, change the response and even change the bearing type. Everything about it is variable and fitting for the player. The player has every single option at his or hers disposal.

Personally, I hope Yoyofactory strikes a deal with Bandai so they can license it and get such stuff over here. It would be total takeover.

The technology/idea behind the hyper cluster however is not a complete new idea. Replacing rims have been around for quite sometime such as the Werrds “donut” system, The Any yo Ultimate X3, But Bandai has completely Reformed it.

Good times in the yoyo-world.

~Z

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**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/innovation/35206/39 "2012-03-06T22:48:23Z")

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> [@\_Z1](#):
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> There has been some current innovative trends happening in the yoyo-world that fashions from the trick styles in competitions, the ways of marketing as well as the Yoyo itself.
> 
> Over in Japan, with Bandai once again trying to push the toy known as a yoyo into the general crowds of people, they have developed such throws like the Infinity but also the Hyper Cluster. Ben of Yoyofactory made a mention how its literally one of the most innovative yoyos out there today.
> 
> The reason it is currently something the most awesome out there is the variability of HOW it can play due to the change of body of said throw to something completely different, change the response and even change the bearing type. Everything about it is variable and fitting for the player. The player has every single option at his or hers disposal.
> 
> Personally, I hope Yoyofactory strikes a deal with Bandai so they can license it and get such stuff over here. It would be total takeover.
> 
> The technology/idea behind the hyper cluster however is not a complete new idea. Replacing rims have been around for quite sometime such as the Werrds “donut” system, The Any yo Ultimate X3, But Bandai has completely Reformed it.
> 
> Good times in the yoyo-world.
> 
> ~Z

wasn’t duncan working on something like that?  
something that could go from an imperial to a butterfly shape by using different spacers?

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