# Initial TiVayder Thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [June 27, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645 "2019-06-27T16:47:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/101 "2019-06-29T02:14:15Z")
I have a couple and I don’t think the Battosai design has held up as well as the Skywalkers tbh. Maybe titanium would alleviate that by eliminating a lot of center weight, but it has the same issue as most undersized yo-yos, a lot of weight in a small area. ---
**Author:** ![Aragorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aragorn/32/41679_2.png) [@Aragorn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Aragorn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/102 "2019-06-29T17:33:42Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/5/c/65c2f45c3db02280d9087655c6c6c49dd349e416.jpeg) Pleasantly surprised to find they all play a little different. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/103 "2019-06-29T18:41:02Z")
If the walker and Vayder are pretty much identical shape someone who has both should try doing a blind test :thinking: I think this could be a cool concept if someone made yoyos with an identical catchzone but different cup. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/104 "2019-06-29T18:43:57Z")
Are we talking actual blindfold? Or are we talkin just a general honors system, I’m really not going to pay attention to which one I’m throwing? ---
**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/105 "2019-06-29T18:48:05Z")
A very dim room of shadowy outlines with no yoyo examination, just attach string without looking pick up and go just might work. ---
**Author:** ![moby323](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moby323/32/57094_2.png) [@moby323](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/moby323)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/106 "2019-06-29T18:52:38Z")
I think the dentists of America would love for us to play titanium yo-yos blindfolded… ---
**Author:** ![moby323](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moby323/32/57094_2.png) [@moby323](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/moby323)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/107 "2019-06-29T18:53:21Z")
You’re saying it changed color? But didn’t it come in a dark box? ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/108 "2019-06-29T18:54:54Z")
I’m down for actual blindfold :joy: Yo we should have a blindfold freestyle forum contest lmao ---
**Author:** ![moby323](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moby323/32/57094_2.png) [@moby323](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/moby323)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/109 "2019-06-29T19:07:23Z")
Well guys, I just figured this out: [https://reddit.com/r/Throwers/comments/c736di/psa\_the\_grey\_tivayder\_seems\_to\_form\_some\_sort\_of/](https://reddit.com/r/Throwers/comments/c736di/psa_the_grey_tivayder_seems_to_form_some_sort_of/) ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/110 "2019-06-29T23:51:53Z")
I gave it a couple of days of use to try and give the most realistic opinion on it that I can, and now I’m here to say that I understand the hype. Do I think it’s the best yoyo ever? Not necessarily. Does it deserve its spot on the Mount Rushmore of yoyos? I believe it does. The more I use it, the more I enjoy it. If you haven’t gotten one yet and are on the fence about it, I’d urge you to grab one. $140 for any Ti is bonkers, let alone a remake of one of the most popular and sought after yoyos of all time. I expect this to be a favorite of mine for a very long time. I doubt I’ll get rid of it anytime soon, If ever. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/c/a/dca437b92f10066e11123785844c5c1c2d147058.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dust/32/83340_2.png) [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/111 "2019-06-29T23:53:29Z")
I feel the same way man. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/112 "2019-06-29T23:55:54Z")
Nice pull on the #393 cuz 3x3=9 ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/113 "2019-06-30T00:00:01Z")
Thanks, I noticed that earlier! ---
**Author:** ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/114 "2019-06-30T00:11:39Z")
> **[Immobilizer 418 Interdictor-class Heavy Cruiser](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Immobilizer_418_Interdictor-class_Heavy_Cruiser)** > > Never again will the Rebels leave you behind, looking flat-footed and foolish. The Immobilizer will see to that.Unnamed Sienar official The Immobilizer 418 Interdictor-class Heavy Cruiser, also known simply as the Interdictor-class heavy cruiser,... haha yes my tiVayder number is related to something Star Wars 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![witchgrinder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/witchgrinder/32/57591_2.png) [@witchgrinder](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/witchgrinder)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/115 "2019-06-30T00:28:32Z")
I think I’m right there with you. This one is staying in my rotation for awhile. It feels like @HVizier really knew how to design with titanium in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/116 "2019-06-30T00:29:36Z")
I’m basically where you’re at. Considering how far removed from my optimum specs it is it’s incredible how much I love playing with it. It’s a lot more stable than I anticipated and it’s very light on the string without feeling hollow or lacking presence. I definitely understand the hype for it after being skeptical how the design would hold up after all these years. I was making a lighthearted remark and feeding the hype train for fun earlier when I said it would make every new yo-yo release look worse in comparison, but i really don’t feel the need to get anything around this size after this. However it doesn’t change my preferences in any way and I’ll still be picking up the yo-yos I have that match those as often or more often than the TiVayder. That being said, it will probably be my go to for taking with me when I go out for a while, as it is by far the best yo-yo I own that isn’t cumbersome to lug around. Edit: also wanted to add it makes a couple of my favorites feel a little slow in comparison. I just have large hands and 53mm to me is like 50 to someone else, so the size is really my main complaint. TLDR: incredible throw, stands the test of time and I could easily see why those who prefer slightly undersized yo-yos would claim this is the best yo-yo they’ve ever played, but if it doesn’t match your preferences then you’re not going to see it that way. ---
**Author:** ![HVizier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hvizier/32/48785_2.png) [@HVizier](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HVizier)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/117 "2019-06-30T00:35:27Z")
I guess the only way to see if it’s a fluke or not is to design another Ti yoyo… ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/118 "2019-06-30T00:36:47Z")
A 56mm Ti-Vayder would be an instant purchase for me. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/119 "2019-06-30T00:45:11Z")
Yeah like I said above my only complaint is size. I wouldn’t change anything about how it plays. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645/120 "2019-06-30T00:46:48Z")
It’s wild to think about how much I’d love it if it was a full sized yoyo. I think I would basically use it exclusively. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/initial-tivayder-thoughts/304645.md?page=7)