# I'm new at this and can't even gravity pull. Please help!!!
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [August 4, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994 "2009-08-04T02:46:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/41 "2009-08-04T20:51:11Z")
Good point there Pheenix.
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### Author:  [@TidusVsSora](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TidusVsSora)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/42 "2009-08-04T20:51:49Z")
AH! welcome!
yea…i’d either skip the beginner section or put the new breed away until you get to less responsive play in the videos.
just wait until you get to the advanced and expert sections. you’ll melt people’s faces off!!
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### Author:  [@JM1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JM1)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/43 "2009-08-04T21:13:07Z")
> [@Shisaki417](#):
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> I didnt have to scrape, i had to sit there… :P. Turns out I’m bringing $400 to Orlando, all my B-day cash ;D. I’ll let you try my P2, M1 and SvZB at worlds 🙂
Awesome! I can’t wait. I think I’m only bringing my frantic and my sili’ed DM, but you’re welcome to try them.
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### Author:  [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/44 "2009-08-04T21:28:39Z")
> [@Pheenix](#):
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> Well I think both Shisaki and Mark are a bit wrong here. It seems like your logic revolves around the theory that when a person buys a new yoyo, his old one is automatically left somewhere else and never to be thrown again. If one person has a New Breed and decides to buy an Axiom, that doesn’t mean he’ll never throw the New Breed again. Those two yoyos are so different that they already make a variated collection.
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> I throw either my Dark Magic, SpeedMaker or one of my M1s depending on the day or hour. And If I’m in the mood, I’ll pick up my Mosquito or one of my Stealth Fires for some responsive fun. I find my collection to have a pretty nice variety of yoyos already, and I can’t see why other people aren’t allowed to have the same just because they are still learning tricks on this site.
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> A certain person once said that you should never replace yoyos unless they are broken. I couldn’t disagree with him more. And I can’t say that I don’t disagree with people saying that you shouldn’t buy new yoyos if you are still learning.
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> Addment: Twisted logics…
Sigh… Not what I mean. But who cares.
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### Author:  [@SpykTheNube](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpykTheNube)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/45 "2009-08-04T23:22:25Z")
Well I decided to get myself a Bully from big brother and a speed maker. I can bind very well and find such tricks as braintwister and split the atom quite simple now. I enjoy collecting things (i actually collect Gibson Les Pauls and rare U.S. Dean guitars) and frequently change what I’m using in my hobbies to give myself variation. I’m a little taken back by people saying that I shouldn’t want more than one yo-yo to play with different styles and tricks (my fingers are to big to grind the new breed, hence, the bully) and have the disposable cash and years behind my belt to make my own choice on such matters. All I asked for was someadvice on which yo-yo’s are considered good for doing different tricks than I’m capable of performing with the new breed, Didn’t realise that was so taboo! sorry guy’s and girls. ???
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### Author:  [@Josh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Josh)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/46 "2009-08-04T23:32:36Z")
> [@SpykTheNube](#):
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> Well I decided to get myself a Bully from big brother and a speed maker. I can bind very well and find such tricks as braintwister and split the atom quite simple now. I enjoy collecting things (i actually collect Gibson Les Pauls and rare U.S. Dean guitars) and frequently change what I’m using in my hobbies to give myself variation. I’m a little taken back by people saying that I shouldn’t want more than one yo-yo to play with different styles and tricks (my fingers are to big to grind the new breed, hence, the bully) and have the disposable cash and years behind my belt to make my own choice on such matters. All I asked for was someadvice on which yo-yo’s are considered good for doing different tricks than I’m capable of performing with the new breed, Didn’t realise that was so taboo! sorry guy’s and girls. ???
no its not a taboo or anything infact im not sure why this turned into such a debate hmm well welcome to the forums heck of a first thread hu!!! lol 😃
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### Author:  [@JM1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JM1)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/47 "2009-08-04T23:45:28Z")
> [@SpykTheNube](#):
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> Well I decided to get myself a Bully from big brother and a speed maker. I can bind very well and find such tricks as braintwister and split the atom quite simple now. I enjoy collecting things (i actually collect Gibson Les Pauls and rare U.S. Dean guitars) and frequently change what I’m using in my hobbies to give myself variation. I’m a little taken back by people saying that I shouldn’t want more than one yo-yo to play with different styles and tricks (my fingers are to big to grind the new breed, hence, the bully) and have the disposable cash and years behind my belt to make my own choice on such matters. All I asked for was someadvice on which yo-yo’s are considered good for doing different tricks than I’m capable of performing with the new breed, Didn’t realise that was so taboo! sorry guy’s and girls. ???
It’s not so much taboo as it is this:
Everyday we try to help no yoers decide on a good yo-yo for them when what they are really asking is “what yo-yo will make me better” to which the answer is of course: “None.” What most of us were trying to say I think was that you shouldn’t buy a new yo-yo for any other reason than you want one.
If you want a bunch of yo-yos, who the heck am I to say otherwise? I think we just would hate to see you waste your money on a yo-yo because you think it will make miracles for you. In this case (you just want more) then to heck will all the nay-sayers and get 'em.
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### Author:  [@SpykTheNube](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpykTheNube)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/48 "2009-08-05T00:00:22Z")
That was a cool reply! I never thought my first post would seem so dramatic lol! But , at the end of the day, I’m really hooked. I got a few tricks in my bag after 24 hours of play with my new breed (which I must say is awesome and won’t be going to any shelf anytime soon) and feel so impressed with myself I feel like getting more and trying different stuff. If anyone can tell me which tricks they think I should practice to get my skills up and generally a gfew tips on how to keep my new babies in good working order I’d be very thankfull. Just know, I wasn’t trying to be funny or nasty with anyone, or to belittle anybody! I am thankfull that you guy’s all took the time to read my post and at the very least offer your opinions which I do honestly consider valuable. Like I said I am new at this so respect the advice of you guy’s that have been kind enough to help in whichever you thought best! ;D
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### Author:  [@kevlar14](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevlar14)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/49 "2009-08-05T00:05:04Z")
> [@SpykTheNube](#):
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> Sorry I took so long to respond. I’ve always seen people yo-yoing and have been completely amazed by it. When I was a kid I had a couple of “novelty” yo-yos that had a sleeping time of around a nano-second but here in the U.K. yo-yos are quite hard to find, so I never had chance to try a good one. I was looking at random videos on youtube and came across some of the Andre’ Boulay (very sorry if I mispelled that) videos and decided to give it a go. Phoned a shop in Florida, told the guy what I wanted to do, he pointed me in the right direction and I got my yo-yo express shipped from there because I couldn’t wait one more week. Thats pretty much it! Hows about you? What style do you like and such? oh, and Good to meet you! 🙂
Slightly ignoring the debating over what you should get, (if you got the money, why not?) My favorite style is 1A, I’ve tried doing counterweights, but that felt awkward. And offstring, it’s surprisingly difficult. Not really that interested in looping, I can barely do it with one hand. So it’s traditional 1A for me!
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### Author:  [@JM1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JM1)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/50 "2009-08-05T00:08:43Z")
Tricks that helped me progress exponentially:
Split the Atom (really, really important. It shows you the way your yo-yo reacts to a bunch of different things):
> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Split the Atom](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/023-intermediate-split-the-atom.php)**
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> Learn split the atom and the split bottom mount at YoYoExpert.com.
Drop in the Bucket (after practice, this really helps you manipulate the string with your non-throw-hand):
> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Drop in the Bucket](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/024-intermediate-drop-in-the-bucket.php)**
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> Learn the yo-yo trick Drop in the Bucket from YoYoExpert.com.
The Matrix (helps with smooth play):
> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - The Matrix](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/033-advanced-matrix.php)**
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> Learn the yo-yo trick The Matrix from YoYoExpert.com.
Rewind (THIS trick helps SO much when you start learning the 1 and 1/2 mount and tricks that use it. This trick will help get you VERY consistent with landing on the string):
> **[YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Rewind](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/035-advanced-rewind.php)**
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> Learn the advanced yo-yo trick Rewind from the YoYoExpert.
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### Author:  [@SpykTheNube](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpykTheNube)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/51 "2009-08-05T00:18:04Z")
> [@JM](#):
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> Tricks that helped me progress exponentially:
>
> Split the Atom (really, really important. It shows you the way your yo-yo reacts to a bunch of different things):
> [YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Split the Atom](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/023-intermediate-split-the-atom.html)
>
> Drop in the Bucket (after practice, this really helps you manipulate the string with your non-throw-hand):
> [YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Drop in the Bucket](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/024-intermediate-drop-in-the-bucket.html)
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> The Matrix (helps with smooth play):
> [YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - The Matrix](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/033-advanced-matrix.html)
>
> Rewind (THIS trick helps SO much when you start learning the 1 and 1/2 mount and tricks that use it. This trick will help get you VERY consistent with landing on the string):
> [YoYoExpert.com - Advanced - Rewind](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/035-advanced-rewind.html)
Thats cool , Thanks for the links especially. Already got split the atom and drop in the bucket (although I still ocassionally lose that one and end up with a knot but, only learned it about six hours ago) I haven’t seen the others yet but will be trying them tomorrow. Thank you again for the help, Still need it at the moment but, I’m trying hard and wearing out plenty of string! 8)
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### Author:  [@jack\_wiggin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jack_wiggin)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/52 "2009-08-05T00:19:29Z")
> [@SpykTheNube](#):
>
> Well I decided to get myself a Bully from big brother and a speed maker. I can bind very well and find such tricks as braintwister and split the atom quite simple now. I enjoy collecting things (i actually collect Gibson Les Pauls and rare U.S. Dean guitars) and frequently change what I’m using in my hobbies to give myself variation. I’m a little taken back by people saying that I shouldn’t want more than one yo-yo to play with different styles and tricks (my fingers are to big to grind the new breed, hence, the bully) and have the disposable cash and years behind my belt to make my own choice on such matters. All I asked for was someadvice on which yo-yo’s are considered good for doing different tricks than I’m capable of performing with the new breed, Didn’t realise that was so taboo! sorry guy’s and girls. ???
well it is not taboo.
oddly enough everyone was just trying to be helpful in their own way.
you made two good choices and i hope you enjoy them. ;D
and welcome to yoyoing and the forum.
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### Author:  [@SpykTheNube](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpykTheNube)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/53 "2009-08-05T00:25:35Z")
Yeah I did realise that they were just expressing there opinions to try and help, and I do thank them. I wasn’t trying to be nasty (I get ignorant when in a bad mood which people can’t see on the internet thankfully ;D) I just wanted some help because I decided to go all out with my new hobby and felt like I was taking a little flak for it. It was honestly just a statement of what I felt. I truly appologise if anyone was offended as it was not my intention to do so! (once again, If I offended you I am sorry, it wasn’t meant like that). Thank you for the welcome and for all your opininons.
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### Author:  [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-new-at-this-and-cant-even-gravity-pull-please-help/4994/54 "2009-08-05T00:41:09Z")
No, you are fine. I didn’t know you had the intention to collect things! Hello fellow collector! I have a limited collection though but none the less a collector inside.
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