# If you scratch,ding and hurt your yoyo? **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [July 31, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223 "2014-07-31T03:51:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YoYoTech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyotech/32/1552_2.png) [@YoYoTech](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoTech)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/1 "2014-07-31T03:51:48Z")
Does it change the way the yoyo plays? ---
**Author:** ![DoubleBass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/doublebass/32/1464_2.png) [@DoubleBass](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DoubleBass)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/2 "2014-07-31T04:00:41Z")
Depending on how bad the ding is it can cause vibe It it doesn’t remove any material, or doesn’t break the finish it usually will have no effect (There is a great stickied thread in the BST pertaining to the different types of damage) ---
**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/3 "2014-07-31T05:10:35Z")
Dings are more likely to change the way a yoyo is played. ---
**Author:** ![mr.nightshadow95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.nightshadow95/32/1093_2.png) [@mr.nightshadow95](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mr.nightshadow95)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/4 "2014-07-31T15:37:38Z")
not really unless its a big chunk that has been smashed, but a little one should do no damage at all. ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/5 "2014-07-31T15:56:56Z")
> [@mr.nightshadow95](#): > > not really unless its a big chunk that has been smashed, but a little one should do no damage at all. no noticeable damage. ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/6 "2014-07-31T16:04:38Z")
I still believe that vibe is caused more likely by deformation of the axle area which takes most of the force like the hinge of a lever, than by deformation of the round halves (into ellipses) themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/7 "2014-07-31T17:19:35Z")
> [@kadabrium](#): > > I still believe that vibe is caused more likely by deformation of the axle area which takes most of the force like the hinge of a lever, than by deformation of the round halves (into ellipses) themselves. That would make sense. To test it, you can just replace the axle with a brand new one. ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/8 "2014-07-31T17:20:28Z")
> [@Philip](#): > > That would make sense. To test it, you can just replace the axle with a brand new one. I meant to include the bearing seat as well. ---
**Author:** ![qpwoei12](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/qpwoei12/32/396_2.png) [@qpwoei12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/qpwoei12)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/9 "2014-07-31T18:56:48Z")
Regardless, vibe isn’t something terribly important in terms of how your yoyo plays. ---
**Author:** ![mr.nightshadow95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.nightshadow95/32/1093_2.png) [@mr.nightshadow95](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mr.nightshadow95)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/10 "2014-08-01T16:23:37Z")
> [@kadabrium](#): > > I still believe that vibe is caused more likely by deformation of the axle area which takes most of the force like the hinge of a lever, than by deformation of the round halves (into ellipses) themselves. yes it is more likely to mess up that way instead of unbalanced halves so you gotta make sure that is resolved first. ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/11 "2014-08-01T16:24:51Z")
No. If it still spins it still works. ---
**Author:** ![mr.nightshadow95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.nightshadow95/32/1093_2.png) [@mr.nightshadow95](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mr.nightshadow95)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/12 "2014-08-01T16:26:30Z")
> [@Irwin Elkblood](#): > > No. If it still spins it still works. I’m not sure we can go with that logic lol ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/13 "2014-08-01T16:27:25Z")
> [@mr.nightshadow95](#): > > I’m not sure we can go with that logic lol I mean vibe really doesnt affect anything besides grinds so if you aint into grinds vibe shouldnt be an object. I dont mind vibe and actually like my yos with a bit of snaz ---
**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/14 "2014-08-01T17:38:21Z")
> [@kadabrium](#): > > I still believe that vibe is caused more likely by deformation of the axle area which takes most of the force like the hinge of a lever, than by deformation of the round halves (into ellipses) themselves. More accurately it’s the bearing seat instead of the axle, because what the axle do is only keeping both halves from falling apart, the axle can actually wiggle a bit… The actual part doing the job keeping the halves straight is the bearing seat that is compressed to the inner race of the bearing. I knew this because I did fix my yoyos that has vibe by evening up (scraping and sanding) the bearing seat. I personally think that little vibe doesn’t really matter if the yoyo was shipped with it, but when I get it dead smooth then someone dropped it and suddenly it has vibe, that’s a problem. ---
**Author:** ![NoHydraNo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nohydrano/32/1547_2.png) [@NoHydraNo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NoHydraNo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/if-you-scratch-ding-and-hurt-your-yoyo/68223/15 "2014-08-02T02:20:12Z")
Vibe is the heart beat letting you know your throw has soul.