# Ideal yoyo for advanced 1a **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [September 16, 2016, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882 "2016-09-16T12:10:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sjx089](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@Sjx089](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sjx089)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/1 "2016-09-16T12:10:06Z")
I am a beginner to yo-yoing, however i can perform various binds and most simple tricks…i now want to upgrade to a metal yoyo for advanced 1a, my preferences are: 1)Long sleep time 2)Stable yoyo, one that keeps axis of rotation horizontal 3)No need for good performance in horizontal play 4) Assistant for thumb grinds or finger spins is NOT needed. 5) Completely ,totally, Unresponsive. There are many good throws that fit these preferences like the draupnir but my range is $50-$60 and i think we could get some pretty qualiy stuff in this range, right now i am considering Shutter or Too Hot. Thanks a lot for help☺ ---
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/2 "2016-09-16T13:05:23Z")
The Too Hot is the best throw ever! I like it more than anything else I own. The Horizon is a close second. I’d pick it over the shutter every time, especially since you want stability and spin time. Those two things are the main strengths of the too hot, I’ve thrown bi-metals that were not as strong and stable. The only downside that people note, is that some don’t like the shape in the hand. But once you get used to it, I actually prefer it. ---
**Author:** ![Dturtle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dturtle/32/104502_2.png) [@Dturtle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dturtle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/3 "2016-09-16T13:48:24Z")
Axis mixtape ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/4 "2016-09-16T15:51:43Z")
I would say the Too Hot or Shutter are your best bets ---
**Author:** ![Siggy-06](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/siggy-06/32/182279_2.png) [@Siggy-06](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Siggy-06)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/5 "2016-09-16T18:30:51Z")
Check out a One Drop Benchmark H @ $58-60 bucks. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/6 "2016-09-16T21:25:27Z")
I’d go with a One Drop Benchmark V or H. ---
**Author:** ![GrandBow2180](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@GrandBow2180](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GrandBow2180)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/7 "2016-09-17T00:01:12Z")
I like the Horizon yoyo because It’s really smooth for grinding and it spins for as long time. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/8 "2016-09-17T00:29:15Z")
> [@Erik\_kerber](#): > > I would say the Too Hot or Shutter are your best bets I second this ---
**Author:** ![Awesomebroyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7feea3/32.png) [@Awesomebroyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Awesomebroyo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/9 "2016-09-17T14:24:23Z")
Titanium Shutter Lol. Jk. ---
**Author:** ![darkmagicII](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darkmagicii/32/7951_2.png) [@darkmagicII](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/darkmagicII)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/10 "2016-09-18T20:24:58Z")
Kingyostar Pun ---
**Author:** ![darkmagicII](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darkmagicii/32/7951_2.png) [@darkmagicII](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/darkmagicII)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/11 "2016-09-18T20:25:43Z")
Mine fits all of the categories-it doesn’t bind back to my hand XD ---
**Author:** ![WoodRat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/woodrat/32/1651_2.png) [@WoodRat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WoodRat)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ideal-yoyo-for-advanced-1a/81882/12 "2016-09-18T22:38:42Z")
Horizon