# I need longer and smoother spin times on metal zero

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742 "2009-09-21T03:10:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![liljonpsp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@liljonpsp](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/liljonpsp)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/1 "2009-09-21T03:10:41Z")

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im thinking about getting a KK bearing for my 3 week old metal zero because the yoyo this few days has been been acting…random. A. it wont throw down all the way and hit u in the neck -.- B.if i can get the throw down it snaps the sting (i use angel hair string and it snaps NEW string on first use-.-) or C. if the string wont snap and if it throws down the yo-yo rotates and ufo’s outta control. Ive been yo-yoing since i was 4 and this year im taking it seriuosly starting with 5A but never have i had a yo-yo act like this then again ive never had a yoyo like this before. plz help me

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**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/2 "2009-09-21T03:14:45Z")

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This could be multiple things.

One, you have a knot…You should know how to remove one.

Two, it may be that you let the yoyo go down, and halfway down the string, you pull it up, and it is tangled. So you throw it, and it won’t go all the way down.

Those are the most likely possobilities.

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/3 "2009-09-21T20:03:39Z")

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I say throw it away and buy a real yoyo.

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**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/4 "2009-09-21T20:49:55Z")

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> [@icthus](#):
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> I say throw it away and buy a real yoyo.

Metal Zero is just fine.

To me it sounds like what Paolo said, most likely being that the string is around the axle instead of the bearing.

Also, unless you make it yourself, I don’t think there even are A sized Koncave bearings.

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**Author:** ![liljonpsp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@liljonpsp](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/liljonpsp)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/5 "2009-09-21T21:33:21Z")

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no knots and theres no tangles and its still being random

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**Author:** ![polloyoyo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@polloyoyo12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/polloyoyo12)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/6 "2009-09-21T21:44:05Z")

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> [@Brian](#):
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> > [@icthus](#):
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> > I say throw it away and buy a real yoyo.
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> Metal Zero is just fine.
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> To me it sounds like what Paolo said, most likely being that the string is around the axle instead of the bearing.
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> Also, unless you make it yourself, I don’t think there even are A sized Koncave bearings.

there are size A its the first one in the pull out menu

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/7 "2009-09-21T21:45:00Z")

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I stand by my statement. I’ve seen so many problems with the metal zero that I wouldn’t even play with one anymore. I say spend a few less $$ and get a way better yoyo!

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**Author:** ![tyler3490](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tyler3490/32/77_2.png) [@tyler3490](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tyler3490)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/8 "2009-09-22T00:02:05Z")

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the threads on my mfhz v1 got stripped in about a month, heres what i did with it (dont try this at home kiddies)-

propane torch-1 mfhz-0

[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2469/3844576488\_ab238ae0c5.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2469/3844576488_ab238ae0c5.jpg)

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**Author:** ![liljonpsp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@liljonpsp](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/liljonpsp)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/9 "2009-09-22T03:01:21Z")

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ok new problem i found out the average spin time on my metal zero(on the few times that it works) BEHOLD!.. 8.7 secs and its braking through brand new agel hair string like no tomarrow. Ive take this yoyo apart over and over again,the only thing i can chalk it up to is that the bearing needs to be cleaned or that the string i got is a bad batch. (my mz broke through 12 new strings today yay -.-)

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**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/10 "2009-09-22T03:13:15Z")

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It’s not the bearing problem. I am almost certain that the string is going between the axle and the bearing.

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/11 "2009-09-22T12:42:25Z")

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Try to find some thinner spacers. This will stop the string from going beside the bearing.

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**Author:** ![xShinji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b19c9b/32.png) [@xShinji](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/xShinji)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/12 "2009-09-30T14:39:35Z")

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i also do have mEtal Zero …and i switch the friction pad into K-pad/ANy pad for smoother play (require bind here)

You can also try use only 1 friction pad

or maybe is the string got problem? …or maybe the string stuck on the side of the bearing ( if you loop the string on the bearing b4 closing the yo-yo …

try use tissue paper clean the spacer as it may have sticky residual and cause some snag…

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**Author:** ![liljonpsp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@liljonpsp](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/liljonpsp)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/13 "2009-11-06T15:10:02Z")

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wat ever was wrong with my MZ is gone and now im gettin 23.4 second average spin time. btw my new favorite trick is the butterfly :). thx for the help ppl

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**Author:** ![Japhle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/japhle/32/79807_2.png) [@Japhle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Japhle)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-longer-and-smoother-spin-times-on-metal-zero/6742/14 "2009-11-11T04:30:09Z")

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Yes, Make sure that the string doesn’t get stuck inbetween the bearing and the yoyo. Angel hair shouldn’t snap so soon unless if you’re unlucky for a string or you have something wrong with your yoyo.
