# i need help with the horizontal thumb grind!

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [July 21, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512 "2009-07-21T20:58:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![shmoe93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shmoe93/32/239_2.png) [@shmoe93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shmoe93)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512/1 "2009-07-21T20:58:41Z")

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i watched andre do this grind alot but i dont understand how he does this do i need the cap in to do this ???

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**Author:** ![JamFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@JamFan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JamFan)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512/2 "2009-07-21T20:59:57Z")

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No. Take the caps out.

Throw a UFO, bring the Yo-Yo up, and stick your thumb in it.

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**Author:** ![Cameron364](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@Cameron364](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cameron364)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512/3 "2009-07-21T22:11:53Z")

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My dark magic is pretty new and so am I to yoyoing, i have learnt a lot for say 2-3 mounths but I want to learn grinds but am stuck between taking them out or not, do you think i should take 1 out

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**Author:** ![chameleon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chameleon/32/134_2.png) [@chameleon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chameleon)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512/4 "2009-07-21T22:17:56Z")

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I think it’s a bit like a matador trick. Do you have a hubstacked yoyo? If you do practice it on that to get the hang of it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![YoKid5000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yokid5000/32/147_2.png) [@YoKid5000](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoKid5000)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512/5 "2009-07-21T23:04:30Z")

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It is not a matador trick. You throw a UFO bring it up and staick your thumb in the side but not on the hub thing.

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**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-the-horizontal-thumb-grind/4512/6 "2009-07-22T11:57:16Z")

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Just do a ufo, stick your thumb in there. Bring your throwhand nearer and nearer to it, letting it snag and catch. You need a semi responsive yoyo to do the wind up, Andre’s DM seems a little responsive.