# I need help with 5a double or nothing
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [December 30, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251 "2011-12-30T05:21:23Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@yoyomasta](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomasta)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/1 "2011-12-30T05:21:23Z")
Can someone send me a p.m. Of a really good tutorial on this trick? And not the miguell correa that one doesnt help
Thanks
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Connor
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### Author:  [@Justin77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Justin77)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/2 "2011-12-30T21:47:28Z")
Tut:[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ZWR4W6DaY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ZWR4W6DaY)
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### Author:  [@yoyomasta](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomasta)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/3 "2011-12-31T00:11:56Z")
not the release
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### Author:  [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/4 "2012-01-01T02:57:30Z")
the “true” 5A version is hard to get, much harder than the 1A version
the thing is, you want to release the CW when the yoyo goes around your non throw hand pointer, so the CW and the yoyo form a straight line (much like a staff)
the non throw hand pointer movement (twist motion) can take some time to get.
if you want to see the “staff” thing, watch jon rob videos, he does this pretty well
keep at it, but it’s really much harder to get than the 1A version
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/5 "2012-01-01T04:22:08Z")
yea Jon Rob has been teaching me 5a:) lol…it took me a while to learn this…you just have to get 1 flowing motion down…learn windmill. get it down. then stick your throwhand finger out as you do windmill. let …aww forget it. If you want I can make a tutorial…detailed. let me know.
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### Author:  [@mx.yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mx.yoyo)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/6 "2012-01-01T07:47:50Z")
I can’t get it either. Tried the tutorial on [highspeddyoyo.com](http://highspeddyoyo.com) but not good for me I Al’s need a little explanation on that one
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### Author:  [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/7 "2012-01-01T12:02:36Z")
just to give you an idea
I’ve been throwing 5A since last spring, started throwing in october 2010
I can do the 5A double or nothing consistently since maybe 2 or 3 months. it’s a completely different animal than it is in 1A. But the “straight line” advice is what did it for me
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### Author:  [@RobbieG123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RobbieG123)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-help-with-5a-double-or-nothing/33251/8 "2012-01-02T22:38:22Z")
I can try to teach you this week at yoyo club