# I need a decent long sleeper that is responsive. **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 17, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176 "2014-10-17T13:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Elessar\_Sly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ea924/32.png) [@Elessar\_Sly](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elessar_Sly)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/1 "2014-10-17T13:57:05Z")
When I was much younger (a decade or so back), I got into yoyo’s as a child. I never really progressed particularly far with it, but I have now decided to pick it up again. I currently have: A rubbish £5 yoyo from Ripley’s - not really much point in this thing. A yomega Dash - A pretty cool throw, but it isn’t very responsive, even with vaseline/lube A YYF Northstar - far beyond my skill level Assume I am pretty much starting from the top. I’m well on my way to getting my throw/ sleeping at a decent level. I can ‘rock the cradle’, ‘walk the dog’, and do VERY basic looping. I do intend to take this a little further, but for now I need to take a step back with the yoyo’s I am using. I need it to be able to sleep for some time, but also be responsive (I have ones that cover mid-ground so I don’t really need that either). Any suggestions would be appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/2 "2014-10-17T14:23:07Z")
Yoyojam classic or the worlds surge are going to be your best options I think ---
**Author:** ![Capes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/capes/32/1308_2.png) [@Capes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Capes)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/3 "2014-10-17T14:23:44Z")
YYJ classic. great price, semi responsive so you can get your binds down. once you get better you can swap a full size bearing in and learn more advanced tricks. Edit: Sparhawk has good taste ;D ---
**Author:** ![Elessar\_Sly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ea924/32.png) [@Elessar\_Sly](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elessar_Sly)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/4 "2014-10-17T14:43:24Z")
I just ordered a Dark Magic II. :-\ ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/5 "2014-10-17T14:48:42Z")
> [@""](#): > > link=topic=79123.msg889581#msg889581 date=1413557004] > I just ordered a Dark Magic II. > > :-\ Yuck. Also why do you want responsive? Plenty of us learned on an unresponsive yoyo. Takes 30 minutes to learn how to bind and then you’re good to go. ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/6 "2014-10-17T14:54:53Z")
> [@""](#): > > link=topic=79123.msg889581#msg889581 date=1413557004] > I just ordered a Dark Magic II. > > :-\ Nothing wrong with that at all, it’s the yoyo that I started learning on. It’ll be more than enough to get you through the basics. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/7 "2014-10-17T15:28:02Z")
> [@""](#): > > link=topic=79123.msg889581#msg889581 date=1413557004] > I just ordered a Dark Magic II. > > :-\ Good choice, DMII will serve you well. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/8 "2014-10-17T16:31:26Z")
> [@""](#): > > link=topic=79123.msg889581#msg889581 date=1413557004] > I just ordered a Dark Magic II. > > :-\ My only problem with the dark magic 2 other than it’s price would be that it’s using silicone response which after being worn in doesn’t really provide the grip you want. You make up for this by adding lube to the bearing which reduces spin time. The yoyojam classic and worlds surge use the O-ring response that tends to be more grippy and work better. Along with the prices of them being significantly cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![Elessar\_Sly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ea924/32.png) [@Elessar\_Sly](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elessar_Sly)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/9 "2014-10-17T18:31:10Z")
> [@NathanC](#): > > Yuck. Also why do you want responsive? Plenty of us learned on an unresponsive yoyo. Takes 30 minutes to learn how to bind and then you’re good to go. I’ve just started to bind. I feel it is important to have a range of yoyo’s. Responsive throws have their uses. I’ve heard good things about the MGII. ---
**Author:** ![Moise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moise/32/955_2.png) [@Moise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Moise)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/10 "2014-10-17T18:52:55Z")
for a responsive yoyo I recommend the yyf ONE. Honestly, learning to bind is very very important. I didn’t waste any time at all in learning to bind. my first real yoyo was a Protostar, which is unresponsive. If you can throw a solid sleeper, I see no reason in you not learning to bind. Ive taught a bunch of my friends to bind and most learned within an hour. Dust off that northstar and go to work! ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-need-a-decent-long-sleeper-that-is-responsive/70176/11 "2014-10-17T19:33:30Z")
> [@""](#): > > link=topic=79123.msg889629#msg889629 date=1413570670] > I’ve just started to bind. > > I feel it is important to have a range of yoyo’s. Responsive throws have their uses. > > I’ve heard good things about the MGII. I 100% agree with you Responsive yoyos definitely have their uses and are a lot of fun. I also like carrying them around since a lot of people will call your unresponsive throws “cheater” yoyos. It also makes ti easier for friends and family since it’s less frustrating. Also practicing on responsive yoyos will make your tricks smoother and look better.