# i didnt like the mutant DNA, like at all... **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 17, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614 "2013-07-17T09:45:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![yoyo143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo143/32/1384_2.png) [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/21 "2013-07-17T23:02:41Z")
Ok :🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/22 "2013-07-17T23:10:31Z")
@yoyo143 Apples and oranges are fruit. But they’re still different. Fixed axle yoyos and ball bearing yoyos are still yoyos. Knowing that they’re different and what they’re used for, it doesn’t seem relevant to compare sleep time to justify your argument. You simply don’t like the yoyo. From my understanding all you like are the hubstacks. Maybe you should find a hubstack yoyo you actually like. ---
**Author:** ![yoyofoot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofoot/32/602_2.png) [@yoyofoot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofoot)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/23 "2013-07-17T23:10:33Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > Ok > :🙂 How can you sleep at night knowing you rolled your eyes at someone online? ---
**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/24 "2013-07-17T23:36:49Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > > [@MiamiBuddha](#): > > > > You still have it? I’ll take it. > > Lol no, its my friends, he brings ot everywhere and I always play with it, only because of the hubstacks, I love hubstacks… Here, tell your friend to send me the DNA and I’ll replace it with a long spinning yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![J-Spinn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j-spinn/32/108_2.png) [@J-Spinn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/J-Spinn)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/25 "2013-07-18T02:10:16Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > Am I alone on this? It didn’t spin very long, the shape wasn’t nice at all, and it was just bad…the only thing I like about it are the hubbies, I have fun with those > > I really hated the shape on that, it was hard to hand start the throw and, idk, I dont remember exactly bit I think the gap size is a little bit small for me. Anybody feel like this??!? The originals were AWESOME! Great Shape, The weight was just right. Overall was an awesome yoyo. The Mutants were just to heavy. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_cat/32/877_2.png) [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/26 "2013-07-18T19:26:02Z")
The Mutant DNA is probably my favorite YYF throw. It’s extremely stable, and I don’t know about you, but it can sleep FOREVER. Really, this just sounds like an error in your technique, or a faulty yoyo, which I doubt. If everyone else is saying that it’s a great yoyo, and is the opposite of what you describe, don’t you figure that it’s you, not the yoyo? Plus, the shape is cool, not too many awesome Organics out there anymore… And as for your Chief to Imperial comparison, it’s extremely flawed. How about we compare the DNA to the Chief? I say their stability is about even, and spin times are similar, but the DNA is more solid. This is a more fair comparison. 🙂 EDIT: Are you crazy?! The gap is too small? _Que ultra Patrick Condon double facepalm_ It’s gap is massive! You could drive a car through it! ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/27 "2013-07-18T23:55:09Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > > [@GoCrazyForYoyo](#): > > > > > [@yoyo143](#): > > > > > > > [@johnthejwolfe](#): > > > > > > > > What if I told you that “sleep time” has to do with your throw, rather than your yoyo? > > > > > > I knew people were going to say that… > > > > > > Im saying, if I gave you a Duncan imperial and chief, would you get the same sleep times? > > > > Duncan Imperal= Fixed Axle > > Chief= Ball bearing > > > > Bad comparison > > Its not bad at all, think about it, he said ANY yoyo, so your saying a fixed axel isn’t a yoyo? he never said ANY yoyo. I know of some people who can sleep their imperial for a full minute. I can do maybe 10 seconds. that means that they can sleep it longer. of course, only one minute of slep on the chief is considered weak sauce by anybody worth their salt, who can sleep that thing for over 5 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/28 "2013-07-19T01:02:55Z")
To preface this, I absolutely agree with Big Cat above, every single word he says. He is 100% right. Now, I don’t like certain yoyos, but I don’t go making threads about my dislike for them. To answer your question- you are alone in your opinion and you probably need to work on your throw, switch out bearings, or something, because the Mutant DNA, although it’s heavy, is an extremely stable yoyo that spins forever and has been proven over time (probably longer than you’ve been throwing altogether) to be a truly solid player. And the comparison between the Chief and Imperial? Really dude? You’ve got to be kidding me. And then you even try and justify it! No. Just no. I’m sorry bro, but before you make threads pubicly trashing yoyos, which you obviously know nothing about, expect to be trashed. This thread is comical. ---
**Author:** ![JetEyeNight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@JetEyeNight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JetEyeNight)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/29 "2013-07-19T01:45:12Z")
I have a mutant dna and it’s probably my favorite yoyo by yoyofactory. When I first started playing with the mutant dna I could relate with the OP on spin times. However I realized that you will get out what you put into it. It is heavy, so you need to give it a good strong throw. ---
**Author:** ![JoeBadass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/joebadass/32/338_2.png) [@JoeBadass](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JoeBadass)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/30 "2013-07-19T02:27:14Z")
I wanna take this time to mention that preferences are extremely important in the yoyo world. It’s okay to like or dislike a yoyo because of its shape, weight, size, width, color, finish, etc. However, if the disliking of a yoyo comes from the user’s skill level, its unjustifiable to say its a bad yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![FoolsGoldDigger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/foolsgolddigger/32/7928_2.png) [@FoolsGoldDigger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FoolsGoldDigger)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/31 "2013-07-19T04:18:26Z")
The DNA and mutant DNA are both based off the the 888 shape and design. The DNA is bigger and the Mutant is bigger and heavier I believe. Getting used to a heavy throw does take time. I felt the same way with the summit. So you need to adjust your throw. If you like hubstacks and want a lighter yoyo go with the 888. I know its your friends but youll probably love the 888 IF not get a grind machine for $30. they are somehwhat cheap and a fun way to experiment with hubstaks! go yoyofactory! ---
**Author:** ![Adamcarte8420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Adamcarte8420](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adamcarte8420)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/32 "2013-07-19T19:07:41Z")
I think the mutant dna is a beast. It is heavy but super stableand long spin times. Holding tthe hubstacks on mine Istill got almost 3 mminutes spin time. I like it better than the original dna and the 888. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/33 "2013-07-19T19:59:59Z")
> [@SlimJoe](#): > > I wanna take this time to mention that preferences are extremely important in the yoyo world. It’s okay to like or dislike a yoyo because of its shape, weight, size, width, color, finish, etc. > > However, if the disliking of a yoyo comes from the user’s skill level, its unjustifiable to say its a bad yoyo. Stephen I think that’s the most coherent thing you said since…well, ever. I’m quite fond if my Mutant DNA. If you’re having bad spin times with it, fix your throw our check they bearing beause that thing is a monster. And the wide organic shape with a sliiight step is one of the most comfortable designs ever. I’ve never played a normal DNA, though. Only the Mutant and Team Edition (which is like 2g lighter) ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/34 "2013-07-19T20:21:40Z")
I’ve owned both a Mutant DNA and a normal DNA, and I honestly have no idea what you’re crapping about. I have gotten the Mutant to sleep for 12+ minutes (Used the long spin technique but still…) Also, I think you may be mistaking long spin time with long spin time in combos. I honestly think you shouldve compared the Mutant DNA to a yoyo with about the same stability as it, like I dont know, a BTH? Yeah, that sounds right. Im guessing you just dont know how to throw a 70g yoyo or the bearing is messed up, cuz my DNAs will always have a special place in my heart. ---
**Author:** ![Jdrabik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jdrabik/32/1110_2.png) [@Jdrabik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jdrabik)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/35 "2013-07-19T21:16:59Z")
You’re all making me want a DNA or Mutant DNA… ---
**Author:** ![Adamcarte8420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Adamcarte8420](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adamcarte8420)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614/36 "2013-07-20T00:09:45Z")
the dna is a nice solid throw and would recommend it to anyone but the mutant dna is unreal. i love it. spins forever and is so comfortable and stable for a heavy throw. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-didnt-like-the-mutant-dna-like-at-all/56614.md?page=1)