# I Am looking around. Edit.. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 29, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338 "2015-04-29T19:18:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DKiminator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DKiminator](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DKiminator)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/21 "2015-04-30T18:08:10Z")
> [@Steve Brown](#): > > I posted this on Facebook recently. It’s applicable. > > Five Things You Should Do If You Are Starting A New YoYo Company > > 1. Shut up. Seriously, do not announce that you intend to do anything. Just start doing it. Give yourself ample time to figure it out. It’s harder than you think, guaranteed, and you are going to screw up more than you are going to do right. The louder you are at the beginning, the bigger the audience you are building for your most spectacular failures. Once you actually have something legit to show, THEN start making noise. > > 2. Under promise so you can over-deliver. You think it’s gonna take a month to get that production run out the door? Tell everyone it will be ready in two months. Are you packaging it with cool extras? Say NOTHING about them until you can show them. Better yet, don’t tell anyone and let them show up with the product as a pleasant surprise. Over-promising and then nothing working out is the fastest way to kill consumer confidence and lose fans before you even have any. > > 3. Shut up. Seriously. I know, it’s exciting to start a new thing and you wanna tell everyone about it but trust me, you’re better off getting 10x further along than you think you need to be before you say a darn word. > > 4. Have a story. Don’t just jump out the gate with “We have a name, does anyone want to make a logo for us we’ll give you a free yoyo if they turn out LOL”. Have a plan. Have a visual identity, or at least the plan for one. Here’s a great exercise: turn your brand into a person. What to they wear? What do they eat? How do they talk? What music do they like? What movies do they like? Figure out exactly what your brand should look like from all possible angles before you say one single word publicly from that brand. > > 5. Plan to fail. Just because that machine shop makes everything else for everyone else doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem with your design. Just because that anodizer does everything else for everyone else doesn’t mean they won’t screw up yours. Expect catastrophe, have a backup plan, and if you followed steps 1 and 3 you don’t have anything to apologize for yet. > > And I’ll add this one… > > 1. If you are asking people what you should be making, then you shouldn’t be making ANYTHING. If you don’t already have a plan, a vision, and a set of goals for yourself, quit now and come back later when you have something. It’s great to get feedback on your actual products, but if the feedback you are asking for is “What should I make?” then you have no business talking about any of this publicly yet. You aren’t ready. Go home, work on it some more, come back later. I fourth this motion. Ya hear that mods? ---
**Author:** ![\_RTD\_alecto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_rtd_alecto/32/1336_2.png) [@\_RTD\_alecto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_RTD_alecto)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/22 "2015-04-30T18:08:35Z")
> [@Steve Brown](#): > > I would also like to point out that I know these things because I have personally screwed ALL of them up at some point, ha ha ha. the best advice come from those who have personally done things… ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/23 "2015-04-30T18:15:25Z")
> [@Steve Brown](#): > > I posted this on Facebook recently. It’s applicable. > > Five Things You Should Do If You Are Starting A New YoYo Company > > 1. Shut up. Seriously, do not announce that you intend to do anything. Just start doing it. Give yourself ample time to figure it out. It’s harder than you think, guaranteed, and you are going to screw up more than you are going to do right. The louder you are at the beginning, the bigger the audience you are building for your most spectacular failures. Once you actually have something legit to show, THEN start making noise. > > 2. Under promise so you can over-deliver. You think it’s gonna take a month to get that production run out the door? Tell everyone it will be ready in two months. Are you packaging it with cool extras? Say NOTHING about them until you can show them. Better yet, don’t tell anyone and let them show up with the product as a pleasant surprise. Over-promising and then nothing working out is the fastest way to kill consumer confidence and lose fans before you even have any. > > 3. Shut up. Seriously. I know, it’s exciting to start a new thing and you wanna tell everyone about it but trust me, you’re better off getting 10x further along than you think you need to be before you say a darn word. > > 4. Have a story. Don’t just jump out the gate with “We have a name, does anyone want to make a logo for us we’ll give you a free yoyo if they turn out LOL”. Have a plan. Have a visual identity, or at least the plan for one. Here’s a great exercise: turn your brand into a person. What to they wear? What do they eat? How do they talk? What music do they like? What movies do they like? Figure out exactly what your brand should look like from all possible angles before you say one single word publicly from that brand. > > 5. Plan to fail. Just because that machine shop makes everything else for everyone else doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem with your design. Just because that anodizer does everything else for everyone else doesn’t mean they won’t screw up yours. Expect catastrophe, have a backup plan, and if you followed steps 1 and 3 you don’t have anything to apologize for yet. > > And I’ll add this one… > > 1. If you are asking people what you should be making, then you shouldn’t be making ANYTHING. If you don’t already have a plan, a vision, and a set of goals for yourself, quit now and come back later when you have something. It’s great to get feedback on your actual products, but if the feedback you are asking for is “What should I make?” then you have no business talking about any of this publicly yet. You aren’t ready. Go home, work on it some more, come back later. Thanks Steve and I agree with all your points And especially with 2 point. But I’m not agreeing with 6 th point. Because I don’t have enough funds to make all these things at one time so I thought that making things in which People are more interested and after the stuff sells u can make all of these stuff. ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/24 "2015-04-30T18:21:32Z")
With some votes on Display case And TShirts I’m going to make some of these first and I already have a parts case ready so I’m going to make another post on b/s/t and link it here. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/25 "2015-04-30T21:43:22Z")
> [@alecto](#): > > the best advice come from those who have personally done things… Very true ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/26 "2015-05-01T20:35:24Z")
I only really chimed in here for a simple reason. I noticed Parvar is from India. Or at least his Profile says India. So if he is indeed from India(A Business to be based in India) than I would think even after following Steves very reality based suggestions; that Parvar consider the possible Major shipping pains/trouble/costs of shipping Products from India to other Countries. And some Countries just have better shipping systems than others. That is just the way it is. You can make up some really nice Products. And you can have the Best Quality and the Best attitude and the best Product prices… On paper. But when you factor the logistics and costs of moving items; it just might not be cost effective. The end. ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/27 "2015-05-01T21:18:35Z")
Dang, doc, from biker to yoyo man, what a transition. (I kid ;)) ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/28 "2015-05-01T21:20:29Z")
> [@mysteriousyoyoer parvarsingh](#): > > Thanks Steve and I agree with all your points > And especially with 2 point. But I’m not agreeing with 6 th point. > > Because I don’t have enough funds to make all these things at one time so > I thought that making things in which > People are more interested and after the stuff sells u can make all of these stuff. I see what you’re doing (trying to do market research, I assume) but it can come off as asking people to design your company for you if not executed smoothly. ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/29 "2015-05-02T20:08:19Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#): > > I only really chimed in here for a simple reason. I noticed Parvar is from India. Or at least his Profile says India. So if he is indeed from India(A Business to be based in India) than I would think even after following Steves very reality based suggestions; that Parvar consider the possible Major shipping pains/trouble/costs of shipping Products from India to other Countries. > > And some Countries just have better shipping systems than others. That is just the way it is. > > You can make up some really nice Products. And you can have the Best Quality and the Best attitude and the best Product prices… On paper. But when you factor the logistics and costs of moving items; it just might not be cost effective. > > The end. The shipping from India to USA is 5 dollars to 10 dollars. ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/30 "2015-05-02T20:10:41Z")
> [@Rosenberg](#): > > I see what you’re doing (trying to do market research, I assume) but it can come off as asking people to design your company for you if not executed smoothly. It might come off like that but doing some research before doing some thing is a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338/31 "2015-05-08T19:00:18Z")
OK so I’m almost there making the display cases and storage box now I want a dealer pm for Information you can get free things. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/i-am-looking-around-edit/74338.md?page=1)