# Hybrids: Refraction or iCEBERG?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321 "2018-10-27T07:31:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@noodles](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noodles)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/1 "2018-10-27T07:31:26Z")
The new Topyo Refraction is the same price as the infamous iCEBERG.
Same price, same concept: metal centre, polycarbonate body and stainless steel rings.
Refraction is 2 grams lighter, less H and a bit wider. No fingerspin dimple, just flat metal centre.
WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET?
i need help, thanks
On a side note:
What do you think of hybrids?
What hybrid yoyo is currently your favorite?
Mine is the Metal Skyva, totally awesome
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### Author:  [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/2 "2018-10-27T16:46:29Z")
I like H shaped yoyos a lot, so I think the shape of the iCEBERG is great. However, my favorite hybrid is probably the POM Draupnir. It is light and stable and nimble and you can really get it moving with ease.
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### Author:  [@Z\_Car](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Z_Car)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/3 "2018-10-27T17:41:21Z")
The iceberg is great. One of my favorites for sure. If you like fingerspins you will not be disapointed. However, i have not played the Refraction so i cannot give you a comparison.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/4 "2018-10-27T22:21:35Z")
I am interested in these as well… let’s compare!
from left to right: iceberg (H), refraction (O-ish), ippon (V), gamma crash (W)
This should also be relevant to @zslane’s interests as these are true _hybrids_ by most definitions :wink: … and it turns out they all have fairly unique shapes!
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### Author:  [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/5 "2018-10-27T22:35:36Z")
And the POM Draupnir for reference:
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/6 "2018-10-27T22:36:37Z")
Another W, so it is similar to the Gamma Crash in that regard.
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### Author:  [@noodles](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noodles)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/7 "2018-10-30T07:09:20Z")
Think im gonna stick with iCEBERG bois
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### Author:  [@Yoyo\_Man](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Man)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/8 "2018-10-30T10:44:35Z")
iceberg iceberg iceberg iceberg iceberg iceberg
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### Author:  [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hybrids-refraction-or-iceberg/294321/9 "2018-11-27T02:18:13Z")
The Gamma crash is an amazing yoyo too.