# hubstacks for axiom GM or M1
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676
**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews
**Created:** [February 17, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676 "2009-02-17T05:37:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/1 "2009-02-17T05:37:32Z")
is there any way I could buy separate hubstacks for a axion, plastic grind machine or an m1
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### Author:  [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/2 "2009-02-17T15:52:23Z")
You can buy the Hubstack Upgrade Kit from YYN. For the stackless Grind Machine–No, it won’t work, because the axle is too small.
The Axiom will work, but according to several of my friends, it will mess is up slightly.
An M1 wasn’t designed to take stacks, but you can do it, but you need some modding skills, or else say good-bye to your M1.
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/3 "2009-02-17T23:29:03Z")
how will it mess up the axiom?
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### Author:  [@AKan3A](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AKan3A)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/4 "2009-02-18T00:02:41Z")
wobble city
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/5 "2009-02-18T00:25:43Z")
any tips to prevent it from wobbling
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### Author:  [@AKan3A](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AKan3A)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/6 "2009-02-18T00:28:50Z")
not really, thats why its not recommended to hubstack an axiom, if you really want to that badly just put synergy caps on it
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### Author:  [@EvanB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanB)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/7 "2009-02-18T01:03:44Z")
If you really want hubs, get synergy stacks or just get a stacked yoyo. It wont mess it up… and theres no risk
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### Author:  [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/8 "2009-02-18T02:36:03Z")
> [@AKan3A](#):
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> wobble city
They have some baaaad neighborhoods :wink:
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### Author:  [@AKan3A](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AKan3A)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/9 "2009-02-18T02:38:15Z")
haha nice one dude
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/10 "2009-02-18T05:29:08Z")
are the g5 z-stacks the right size?
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### Author:  [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/11 "2009-02-19T00:40:10Z")
> [@gm user](#):
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> are the g5 z-stacks the right size?
No. Z-Stacks dont work like the way you are thinking.
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### Author:  [@Mitchell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mitchell)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/12 "2009-02-20T22:00:55Z")
Doesn’t the Grind Machine come with hubstacks?
And just use synergy caps for the AXIOM and the M1. The M1 will require a little work though.
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/13 "2009-02-20T23:29:21Z")
yes they do but I got the unstacked version because I think over $20 extra for stacks is not worth it
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### Author:  [@Mitchell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mitchell)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/14 "2009-02-20T23:44:31Z")
> [@gm user](#):
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> yes they do but I got the unstacked version because I think over $20 extra for stacks is not worth it
It actually costs an extra $20 just to have them added!
-Mitchell
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/15 "2009-02-21T02:31:32Z")
yes
go to shop/yoyo factory /grind machine look at the choices for no stacks and stacks
I think it is ridiculos how the price is over double for stacks
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### Author:  [@EvanB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanB)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/16 "2009-02-21T02:34:21Z")
> [@gm user](#):
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> yes
> go to shop/yoyo factory /grind machine look at the choices for no stacks and stacks
> I think it is ridiculos how the price is over double for stacks
PSSST! when they restock… check the bottom 2… 19.99$ for stacked ;D ;D
[http://www.yoyonation.com/product.php?productid=16738&cat=275&page=1](http://www.yoyonation.com/product.php?productid=16738&cat=275&page=1)
_NO OFFENCE_
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/17 "2009-02-21T02:47:21Z")
I meant on yoyoexpert
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### Author:  [@DaShiznit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaShiznit)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/18 "2009-02-21T03:58:44Z")
> [@Samad](#):
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> You can buy the Hubstack Upgrade Kit from YYN. For the stackless Grind Machine–No, it won’t work, because the axle is too small.
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> The Axiom will work, but according to several of my friends, it will mess is up slightly.
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> An M1 wasn’t designed to take stacks, but you can do it, but you need some modding skills, or else say good-bye to your M1.
apparently, one of my friends said that u have to find an axiom size axle long enough to support the stacks. people say u can buy the FHZ upgrade kit from YYG but some ppl say it wont work on the axiom. samad is correct, u can stack an axiom, it just takes a little modding of the axle.
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### Author:  [@DaShiznit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaShiznit)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/19 "2009-02-21T04:00:22Z")
> [@Mitchell](#):
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> Doesn’t the Grind Machine come with hubstacks?
> And just use synergy caps for the AXIOM and the M1. The M1 will require a little work though.
haha i have synergy caps and they are really fun to use. but, they do come with a price, wobble. not much but i find it annoying. it does not affect yoyo play at all though.
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### Author:  [@StevenYoYos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/StevenYoYos)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/hubstacks-for-axiom-gm-or-m1/676/20 "2009-02-21T15:55:54Z")
I would just recomend getting a yo-yo that’s made for hubs?
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