# How to improve tightness of binds? (Genesis slips on binds)
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [March 21, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127 "2013-03-21T23:50:32Z")
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### Author:  [@chrt222](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrt222)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/1 "2013-03-21T23:50:32Z")
I need a little help with because I noticed my Genesis tends to slip on some binds especially when I’m hand starting it.
Do the factors of bearing and string matter to this?
I noticed that my DM II has tight binds now like I can actually do a slack bind pretty consistently where I can’t even get it once on the Genesis. My Dark Magic II has a konkave bearing and I guess non standard response system. It’s weird but before it was never this ‘responsive’ but one day when I hit it on the floor or something it started to improve on binds i guess.
Thanks 🙂
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### Author:  [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/2 "2013-03-21T23:55:35Z")
Have the binds on the Genesis always been slippy or is this a relatively recent thing? If it’s always happened, best suggestion I can give is to try a slightly thicker string. I find my Genesis works best with fat kitty polyester. If it’s a relatively recent thing, it could just be that the pads need replacing.
Yuki
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### Author:  [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/3 "2013-03-21T23:57:27Z")
It mostly just depends on yoyos.
Try pinching the string as you feed it into the yoyo’s gap.
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### Author:  [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/4 "2013-03-22T00:27:44Z")
The response could be wearing? Thin string? Not screwed in fully? ??? ??? ???
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/5 "2013-03-22T00:53:02Z")
Five players involved with binds: bearing, string, response, spin, and bind technique.
-If your binds are slipping, try changing your string. As string wears, it gets thinner and slicker, thus hindering its ability to grab onto the response.
-Check your response. A worn down response greatly increases how hard it is to bind. It may need to be replaced.
-Though bearings play the most minute part, they still factor in. Concave bearings typically make it hard to bind since they keep the string away from the response. Try switching to a flat bearing and see if that helps.
-Bind technique. Try taking a ‘bigger’ bind (grabbing a longer length of string with your NTH).
-Spin. A slower yoyo is harder to bind. For hand starts, you’ll just have to work on the technique of getting a good solid spin out of your yoyo.
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### Author:  [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/6 "2013-03-22T17:38:43Z")
Ethier you need a new response or better string ie kitty,toxic and ect
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### Author:  [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/A_Soviet_Locust)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/7 "2013-03-22T20:02:22Z")
> [@augmentedloyalty](#):
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> or better string ie kitty,toxic and ect
No…
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### Author:  [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/8 "2013-03-22T20:35:02Z")
> [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#):
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> > [@augmentedloyalty](#):
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> > or better string ie kitty,toxic and ect
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> No…
Maybe not a “better” string, but a different string will certainly behave differently; some will result in tighter binds.
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### Author:  [@Apollo2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apollo2)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/9 "2013-04-04T20:39:18Z")
I would take out the pads and silicone it, if you don’t know how to do this I can send you detailed instructions :wink:
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### Author:  [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/10 "2013-04-04T20:42:25Z")
> [@Apollo2](#):
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> I would take out the pads and silicone it, if you don’t know how to do this I can send you detailed instructions :wink:
First we need to know if the pads are wearing.
Why won’t he respond. We can’t help if we don’t know what’s wrong.
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### Author:  [@Apollo2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apollo2)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/11 "2013-04-04T21:28:01Z")
> [@Bcmaddog](#):
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> > [@Apollo2](#):
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> > I would take out the pads and silicone it, if you don’t know how to do this I can send you detailed instructions :wink:
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> First we need to know if the pads are wearing.
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> Why won’t he respond. We can’t help if we don’t know what’s wrong.
I agree, he needs to check
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### Author:  [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/12 "2013-04-04T23:59:22Z")
His original post is about 2 weeks old. Maybe he’s got it fixed…
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### Author:  [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/13 "2013-04-05T03:31:45Z")
> [@jhb8426](#):
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> His original post is about 2 weeks old. Maybe he’s got it fixed…
Maybe, but you know the users here, always trying to help!
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### Author:  [@chrt222](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrt222)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-improve-tightness-of-binds-genesis-slips-on-binds/51127/14 "2013-05-07T12:39:49Z")
Oh snap my bad guys haven’t been able to check on the latest responses I thought my post disappeared into the forum and no one would respond.
Very happy to see you guys so considerate and helpful to fellow members 🙂
Yea I kindda got it fixed in a way usually its string and maybe a response pads need to be broken in a little i think cause over time it fixed itself.