# How to Hubstack a YYF Whip/One??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [April 23, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627 "2013-04-23T02:01:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/1 "2013-04-23T02:01:07Z")
So I’m looking to buy an Ann Connoly Whip which comes with a central trac bearing which is a steal for that price! But I’m looking for it to be hubstacked. So I understand that i would have to buy a YYF Hubstack Kit with 2 Size A bearings, with some or rings and hubstacks. Would I have to buy a new axle tp replace the axle and what would be the process of it? I know I could just buy a PGM but I’d like to use a central trac bearing and quite frankly… I just don’t like the PGM. Thanks for the help ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/2 "2013-04-23T02:15:33Z")
> [@Denzzil](#): > > So I’m looking to buy an Ann Connoly Whip which comes with a central trac bearing which is a steal for that price! But I’m looking for it to be hubstacked. So I understand that i would have to buy a YYF Hubstack Kit with 2 Size A bearings, with some or rings and hubstacks. Would I have to buy a new axle tp replace the axle and what would be the process of it? > I know I could just buy a PGM but I’d like to use a central trac bearing and quite frankly… I just don’t like the PGM. Thanks for the help I think you can get the PGM axle and the stack portions at YYE now. I think you’d need the 25mm PGM axle and the pair of PGM Metal posts. I think you’d also need the hubstack kit, which is around $20. However, now you’re around the PGM price for your parts for the project and you haven’t even gotten the Champions Edition Ann Connolly Whip yet… I’d like to know what it would take to stack a WHIP. I’d buy the parts next month. ---
**Author:** ![Squaktopus13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/squaktopus13/32/1325_2.png) [@Squaktopus13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Squaktopus13)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/3 "2013-04-23T02:18:03Z")
Yea your going to have to get a longer axle seeing that the axle of the whip consists of nothing more than a nut and bolt ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/4 "2013-04-23T02:35:45Z")
Find a plastic Grind Machine on the BST and swap over the guts (axel, posts etc.) and if you don’t want the stackless Grind Machine find somebody who wants to learn and gift it. Then you got a throwin’ buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/5 "2013-04-23T02:36:21Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > > [@Denzzil](#): > > > > So I’m looking to buy an Ann Connoly Whip which comes with a central trac bearing which is a steal for that price! But I’m looking for it to be hubstacked. So I understand that i would have to buy a YYF Hubstack Kit with 2 Size A bearings, with some or rings and hubstacks. Would I have to buy a new axle tp replace the axle and what would be the process of it? > > I know I could just buy a PGM but I’d like to use a central trac bearing and quite frankly… I just don’t like the PGM. Thanks for the help > > I think you can get the PGM axle and the stack portions at YYE now. > > I think you’d need the 25mm PGM axle and the pair of PGM Metal posts. > > I think you’d also need the hubstack kit, which is around $20. > > However, now you’re around the PGM price for your parts for the project and you haven’t even gotten the Champions Edition Ann Connolly Whip yet… > > I’d like to know what it would take to stack a WHIP. I’d buy the parts next month. > > Ok yea that’s what I was going to do. Buy a whip while i have maybe $20 with response pads for my protostar and then after my birthday next week I’d get hopefully a used Di Base and then I’d go to YYE and buy silicone or get them at a store and get the parts on yye and hubstack it. ---
**Author:** ![modman10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/modman10/32/874_2.png) [@modman10](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/modman10)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/6 "2013-04-23T04:52:53Z")
Sadly the yyf whip bolt and nut are pressed into the plastic so that you cant remove them :-\ also i feel the need to point out that the stack less gm is heaver than the whip due to plastic weight rings, this might be why the OP liked it more. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/7 "2013-04-23T05:55:28Z")
> [@modman10](#): > > Sadly the yyf whip bolt and nut are pressed into the plastic so that you cant remove them :-\ also i feel the need to point out that the stack less gm is heaver than the whip due to plastic weight rings, this might be why the OP liked it more. The OP didn’t like the PGM, didn’t mention the stackless one. Seems to me it would be cheaper and easier to just order a CenterTrac and a PGM, open the PGM, pry the spacers off the bearing, put the spacers on the CenterTrac, re-assemble and get to throwing. ---
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/8 "2013-04-23T10:28:31Z")
Well, as the title says, I might just do the YYF one. Or are the nut and bolt pressed into that too? I really don’t want such a heavy yoyo. I just want it hubstacked to maybe sit and try some tricks while sitting. Or if I get bored in myabe a car I can try keep it on my finger. I really don’t want anything to heavy. Floaty plastic seems find to me. ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/9 "2013-04-23T16:01:55Z")
> [@modman10](#): > > Sadly the yyf whip bolt and nut are pressed into the plastic so that you cant remove them :-\ also i feel the need to point out that the stack less gm is heaver than the whip due to plastic weight rings, this might be why the OP liked it more. You can firmly press on the bolt and it slides out. Back on topic if OP wants a stacked Whip I could do the work for “free” just send me a Whip and a Grind machine and cost of shipping back. If that interests you PM me. I could always track the stuff down also. ---
**Author:** ![modman10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/modman10/32/874_2.png) [@modman10](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/modman10)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/10 "2013-04-23T16:55:00Z")
> [@Denzzil](#): > > Well, as the title says, I might just do the YYF one. Or are the nut and bolt pressed into that too? I really don’t want such a heavy yoyo. I just want it hubstacked to maybe sit and try some tricks while sitting. Or if I get bored in myabe a car I can try keep it on my finger. I really don’t want anything to heavy. Floaty plastic seems find to me. There is a special ED Yyf one on yye that comes with a center track, it can be modded for hubstacks. ---
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/11 "2013-04-23T18:53:18Z")
> [@Coffelt](#): > > > [@modman10](#): > > > > Sadly the yyf whip bolt and nut are pressed into the plastic so that you cant remove them :-\ also i feel the need to point out that the stack less gm is heaver than the whip due to plastic weight rings, this might be why the OP liked it more. > > You can firmly press on the bolt and it slides out. > > Back on topic if OP wants a stacked Whip I could do the work for “free” just send me a Whip and a Grind machine and cost of shipping back. If that interests you PM me. I could always track the stuff down also. So if it slides out, then I could just buy the grind machine axle and yyf hubstack kit and do it right? ---
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/12 "2013-04-23T18:58:01Z")
> [@modman10](#): > > > [@Denzzil](#): > > > > Well, as the title says, I might just do the YYF one. Or are the nut and bolt pressed into that too? I really don’t want such a heavy yoyo. I just want it hubstacked to maybe sit and try some tricks while sitting. Or if I get bored in myabe a car I can try keep it on my finger. I really don’t want anything to heavy. Floaty plastic seems find to me. > > There is a special ED Yyf one on yye that comes with a center track, it can be modded for hubstacks. That sounds good too. If I can’t do the whip then this is my next choice. Would i need to buy a new axle for that? ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/13 "2013-04-23T19:49:13Z")
You need the PGM. hub stack kit only has “O” rings, bearings and hubstacks themselves. You need the mounting ends (don’t think they are sold separately). I might be able to track down a beat PGM what kind of Whip were you looking to get (color etc.)? ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/14 "2013-04-23T19:51:56Z")
> [@Coffelt](#): > > You need the PGM. hub stack kit only has “O” rings, bearings and hubstacks themselves. You need the mounting ends (don’t think they are sold separately). I might be able to track down a beat PGM what kind of Whip were you looking to get (color etc.)? I have a fairly nice pgm if you want it. (Talking to op) ---
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/15 "2013-04-23T20:06:41Z")
> [@dingo54](#): > > > [@Coffelt](#): > > > > You need the PGM. hub stack kit only has “O” rings, bearings and hubstacks themselves. You need the mounting ends (don’t think they are sold separately). I might be able to track down a beat PGM what kind of Whip were you looking to get (color etc.)? > > Ann Connolly one, it comes with central trac bearing, but i might get the Gacek version of the One if I need to. > > I have a fairly nice pgm if you want it. (Talking to op) Thanks for offering! I’ll get back to if i need to buy it. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/16 "2013-04-23T20:11:28Z")
> [@Denzzil](#): > > > [@dingo54](#): > > > > > [@Coffelt](#): > > > > > > You need the PGM. hub stack kit only has “O” rings, bearings and hubstacks themselves. You need the mounting ends (don’t think they are sold separately). I might be able to track down a beat PGM what kind of Whip were you looking to get (color etc.)? > > > Ann Connolly one, it comes with central trac bearing, but i might get the Gacek version of the One if I need to. > > > > I have a fairly nice pgm if you want it. (Talking to op) > > Thanks for offering! I’ll get back to if i need to buy it. Thanks! Hey man I was just gonna give it to you. If you want I just found half, the other half is in the same vicinty , but my closet is really cluttered. ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/17 "2013-04-23T20:19:51Z")
If dingo54 wants to give you the PGM I would gladly have him send it to me and if you tell me what color whip you want I could get it from YYE. For the cost of the whip and $5 flat rate box your dream could become a reality. ---
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/18 "2013-04-23T20:35:37Z")
Wow, thanks! Are you sure you don’t want anything? 5 bucks? Anything? I’ll get ordering on the whip soon(to dingo) And sure that would work. Just tell me how much I should send you for it and you got it. Oh and the ann connolly whip pink (the only color they have /🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/19 "2013-04-23T20:42:51Z")
> [@Denzzil](#): > > Wow, thanks! Are you sure you don’t want anything? 5 bucks? Anything? I’ll get ordering on the whip soon(to dingo) > > And sure that would work. Just tell me how much I should send you for it and you got it. Oh and the ann connolly whip pink (the only color they have /🙂 Hold on man, I think I have a whip somewhere too ---
**Author:** ![Denzzil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Denzzil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Denzzil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627/20 "2013-04-23T20:47:37Z")
:o That would be good. Do you know if it’s Ann Connolly version? If not it’s find I’ll get a central trac bearing. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-to-hubstack-a-yyf-whip-one/52627.md?page=2)